From: Capt. Cave Man on
On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 18:44:44 GMT, nico(a)puntnl.niks (Nico Coesel) wrote:

>Vladimir Vassilevsky <nospam(a)nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>http://www.abvolt.com/misc/A330-200_Linux.JPG
>>
>>This is the TV console of A330 en route from Amsterdam to US. No movies
> ^^^^^^
>You shouldn't be flying in a French airplane. I avoid flying with an
>Airbus if I can.

I almost said the same thing.
From: Paul Hovnanian P.E. on
Nico Coesel wrote:
>
> Vladimir Vassilevsky <nospam(a)nowhere.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >http://www.abvolt.com/misc/A330-200_Linux.JPG
> >
> >This is the TV console of A330 en route from Amsterdam to US. No movies
> ^^^^^^
> You shouldn't be flying in a French airplane. I avoid flying with an
> Airbus if I can.

The passenger entertainment system isn't built by Airbus. Each airline
specifies what they want and it may very well be the same manufacturer
that builds systems for some Boeing planes.

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From: Bitrex on
Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 2/02/2010 3:10 PM, Martin Riddle wrote:
>> "Vladimir Vassilevsky"<nospam(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:X_WdnYGo4ddZPvrWnZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d(a)giganews.com...
>>>
>>> http://www.abvolt.com/misc/A330-200_Linux.JPG
>>>
>>> This is the TV console of A330 en route from Amsterdam to US. No
>>> movies for the whole plane. However, watching their attempts of
>>> rebooting it for an hour and a half was kind of entertaining :-) BTW,
>>> the TV remote control had some bugs as well.
>>>
>> It's great when it works, if you get that far. but, its very easy for
>> the average Joe to break.
>
> In this application, booting the system off a DVD drive, and having two
> drives (or two computers), and spare boot DVDs would seem the way to go.
> Nothing like unwritable media for guaranteeing that things don't get
> stuffed up after they're working (provided the BIOS settings are left
> alone).
>
> The failure to find an ext2 filesystem on a loopback device doesn't
> really sound to me like an application problem.
>
> But I'm not sympathetic to the subject line premise, having spent three
> days recovering from the mess that occurred after letting Windows XP do
> one of its overly frequent security updates - it would no longer boot -
> and my reinstall attempts failed as well due to Windows XP in its pre
> SP1 form being incapable of driving my present hardware (that took a
> while to realise, because it kept looking like a HDD problem or
> motherboard problem).
>
> Sylvia.

One of the advantages of Windows 7 and Vista is the built in ability to
save a complete system image and restore directly from the install disc,
a la Norton Ghost. Windows XP is really getting to be a dinosaur
compared to Windows 7 and some of the Linux distros, and I think that if
one absolutely has to run it it's best consigned to a VM, unless there
is some particular piece of hardware that is essential for the machine's
purpose and doesn't work with the VM passthrough.
From: Ban on

"Paul Hovnanian P.E." <Paul(a)Hovnanian.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:4B689F30.C9538CB4(a)Hovnanian.com...
> Nico Coesel wrote:
>>
>> Vladimir Vassilevsky <nospam(a)nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >http://www.abvolt.com/misc/A330-200_Linux.JPG
>> >
>> >This is the TV console of A330 en route from Amsterdam to US. No movies
>> ^^^^^^
>> You shouldn't be flying in a French airplane. I avoid flying with an
>> Airbus if I can.
>
> The passenger entertainment system isn't built by Airbus. Each airline
> specifies what they want and it may very well be the same manufacturer
> that builds systems for some Boeing planes.
>
> --


In fact I was in an MD11, certainly it was outfitted only lately and the
same happened. It seems to be related to the carrier not the plane.


From: Sylvia Else on
On 3/02/2010 12:09 AM, Capt. Cave Man wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 23:16:54 +1100, Sylvia Else
> <sylvia(a)not.at.this.address> wrote:
>
>> On 2/02/2010 3:10 PM, Martin Riddle wrote:
>>> "Vladimir Vassilevsky"<nospam(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message
>>> news:X_WdnYGo4ddZPvrWnZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d(a)giganews.com...
>>>>
>>>> http://www.abvolt.com/misc/A330-200_Linux.JPG
>>>>
>>>> This is the TV console of A330 en route from Amsterdam to US. No
>>>> movies for the whole plane. However, watching their attempts of
>>>> rebooting it for an hour and a half was kind of entertaining :-) BTW,
>>>> the TV remote control had some bugs as well.
>>>>
>>> It's great when it works, if you get that far. but, its very easy for
>>> the average Joe to break.
>>
>> In this application, booting the system off a DVD drive, and having two
>> drives (or two computers), and spare boot DVDs would seem the way to go.
>
> Bullshit.

Allways a compelling argument that one. Pehaps that's why so many people
use it.

Solid state drives or regular old hard drives.
>

>
>> Nothing like unwritable media for guaranteeing that things don't get
>> stuffed up after they're working (provided the BIOS settings are left
>> alone).
>
> That's what boot volumes and the like are for. Connection OS is not
> from an optical disc.

At the end of the day, any medium that is capable of being written can
be written in error, or as the result of a malicious act. Short of
physically removing the write circuitry from a HDD, you cannot obviate
the possibility that the data on the disk will be corrupted in a way
that is not subsequently detected by the hardware, but instead manifests
as strange software behaviour.

>
>>
>> The failure to find an ext2 filesystem on a loopback device doesn't
>> really sound to me like an application problem.
>
> It was still booting, but the volume could not be found, so it sounds
> like a failed external storage server has failed.
>
>> But I'm not sympathetic to the subject line premise, having spent three
>> days recovering from the mess that occurred after letting Windows XP do
>> one of its overly frequent security updates
>
> You come in the group and act overly uneducated in the computing realm,
> so what is different?
>
>> - it would no longer boot -
>> and my reinstall attempts failed as well due to Windows XP in its pre
>> SP1 form being incapable of driving my present hardware (that took a
>> while to realise, because it kept looking like a HDD problem or
>> motherboard problem).
>
> You and your IT dept has never heard of slipstreaming? Jeez, you can
> even DL slipstreamed discs with the most recent SP built in. Your
> specialized drivers as well (if needed).

My IT dept?

> You one of those "re-install everything, hopelessly fail and blame it
> on Redmond" twits, aren't ya?

Where did I say I was blaming Microsoft? Do you think that "after" means
"as a consequence of" ?

Sylvia.