From: Pascal Costanza on
On 14/06/2010 17:49, -BMC- wrote:
>
>> The most commonly used dialects are Scheme and Common Lisp (and,
>> depending on your perspective, Emacs Lisp)
>
> Pascal, your contributions here (and elsewhere) are always
> appreciated. Have you any comments about the viability of ISLisp?

I think ISLisp is a very nice Lisp dialect. It's a very compact, mostly
subset of Common Lisp, which would be ideal for teaching, for example.
There is one implementation which is seemingly well maintained.
Unfortunately, ISLisp doesn't play a big role.


Pascal

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From: Curt on
On 2010-06-13, Pascal Costanza <pc(a)p-cos.net> wrote:
>
> The discipline of computer science in its current form is about 50-60
> years old. That's far too early to claim any kind of universality of
> laws in that realm. I think we have to wait a couple of centuries for
> making any final judgments...
>
I can't wait that long.
From: Pascal Costanza on
On 04/07/2010 17:39, Curt wrote:
> On 2010-06-13, Pascal Costanza<pc(a)p-cos.net> wrote:
>>
>> The discipline of computer science in its current form is about 50-60
>> years old. That's far too early to claim any kind of universality of
>> laws in that realm. I think we have to wait a couple of centuries for
>> making any final judgments...
>>
> I can't wait that long.

Sure. So in the meantime, you have to make guesses, like everybody else.


Pascal

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From: Kenneth Tilton on
Simon wrote:
> I'm deeply interested in Lisp. I'm learning it through Peter Seibel's
> PCL.
>
> One comment I find a lot when people talk about Lisp is that Lisp is
> wonderful, but CL has a lot of problems (problems I cannot understand
> due to my newbieness). Now, I don't want to learn the wrong Lisp.

It's quite fashionable, when X is the leader, to say X is not so good.
Also, when CL came out some folks were worried about the size, but I use
it all (except Series) so it is hard to say it is too big.

I use CL for heavy-duty industrial work and am not having any problems.

>
> What do people mean by Lisp in this context? Is it Lisp 1, Lisp 1.5,
> the particular dialect they used and fall in love with?
>
> If this unidentified Lisp is so great, why don't they use it and avoid
> all the pitfalls of CL?

A lot of people use Scheme, but you are right: there must not be all the
pitfalls some folks talk about.

kt


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