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From: Pascal Costanza on 15 Jun 2010 04:03 On 14/06/2010 17:49, -BMC- wrote: > >> The most commonly used dialects are Scheme and Common Lisp (and, >> depending on your perspective, Emacs Lisp) > > Pascal, your contributions here (and elsewhere) are always > appreciated. Have you any comments about the viability of ISLisp? I think ISLisp is a very nice Lisp dialect. It's a very compact, mostly subset of Common Lisp, which would be ideal for teaching, for example. There is one implementation which is seemingly well maintained. Unfortunately, ISLisp doesn't play a big role. Pascal -- My website: http://p-cos.net Common Lisp Document Repository: http://cdr.eurolisp.org Closer to MOP & ContextL: http://common-lisp.net/project/closer/
From: Curt on 4 Jul 2010 11:39 On 2010-06-13, Pascal Costanza <pc(a)p-cos.net> wrote: > > The discipline of computer science in its current form is about 50-60 > years old. That's far too early to claim any kind of universality of > laws in that realm. I think we have to wait a couple of centuries for > making any final judgments... > I can't wait that long.
From: Pascal Costanza on 4 Jul 2010 14:21 On 04/07/2010 17:39, Curt wrote: > On 2010-06-13, Pascal Costanza<pc(a)p-cos.net> wrote: >> >> The discipline of computer science in its current form is about 50-60 >> years old. That's far too early to claim any kind of universality of >> laws in that realm. I think we have to wait a couple of centuries for >> making any final judgments... >> > I can't wait that long. Sure. So in the meantime, you have to make guesses, like everybody else. Pascal -- My website: http://p-cos.net Common Lisp Document Repository: http://cdr.eurolisp.org Closer to MOP & ContextL: http://common-lisp.net/project/closer/
From: Kenneth Tilton on 4 Jul 2010 16:16
Simon wrote: > I'm deeply interested in Lisp. I'm learning it through Peter Seibel's > PCL. > > One comment I find a lot when people talk about Lisp is that Lisp is > wonderful, but CL has a lot of problems (problems I cannot understand > due to my newbieness). Now, I don't want to learn the wrong Lisp. It's quite fashionable, when X is the leader, to say X is not so good. Also, when CL came out some folks were worried about the size, but I use it all (except Series) so it is hard to say it is too big. I use CL for heavy-duty industrial work and am not having any problems. > > What do people mean by Lisp in this context? Is it Lisp 1, Lisp 1.5, > the particular dialect they used and fall in love with? > > If this unidentified Lisp is so great, why don't they use it and avoid > all the pitfalls of CL? A lot of people use Scheme, but you are right: there must not be all the pitfalls some folks talk about. kt -- http://www.stuckonalgebra.com "The best Algebra tutorial program I have seen... in a class by itself." Macworld |