From: Jonathan Schattke on
On 6/5/2010 1:32 PM, Patok wrote:
> Jonathan Schattke wrote:
>> On 6/5/2010 11:45 AM, Patok wrote:
>>> Uncle Al wrote:
>>>> http://snarxiv.org/vs-arxiv/ http://snarxiv.org/vs-arxiv/highscores/
>>>> Choose between a published physics paper title and technobabble. Make
>>>> the binary choice, enjoy your running reality score.
>>>
>>> No one can do better than random on that one. Only if one knew all
>>> papers published in the area - but that's impossible in principle. The
>>> generator is very good.
>>>
>>
>> Actually, I ran 66%. Which is about right, considering I'm an
>> undergrad with interest in the field.
>
> But how did you do it? Did you recognize some of the real papers? I
> tried only 3 actually, :) because I was more interested in /how/ it
> works, than in the test itself. Of the three, the only one I got right
> was where the title of the fake one was PDFs -- hardly a real article
> could afford to be called that. While for the other two, even after the
> truth was revealed, the titles of the fake ones looked more (or at least
> as) authentic as the real ones.
> P.S. - I did 10 more of them, and got 70% this time, but still maintain
> that the generator is very good.

Actually, by knowing the headlines from ScienceNews. Their paper
generator is good, but not perfect. It's a fun little test.
From: eric gisse on
Uncle Al wrote:
[...]

> Chemist Uncle Al scored 32/51, 63%. Uncle Al's strategy was wholly
> trivial - based upon the flow of text not the content: What would an
> academic puff pigeon not publish as a title?
>

I tried both content and grammar and barely scored better. Even some stuff
that struck me as obvious nonsense was actually real.

There's a lesson here for the HEP crowd.
From: Uncle Al on
eric gisse wrote:
>
> Uncle Al wrote:
> [...]
>
> > Chemist Uncle Al scored 32/51, 63%. Uncle Al's strategy was wholly
> > trivial - based upon the flow of text not the content: What would an
> > academic puff pigeon not publish as a title?
> >
>
> I tried both content and grammar and barely scored better. Even some stuff
> that struck me as obvious nonsense was actually real.
>
> There's a lesson here for the HEP crowd.

Amen.
--
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From: blackhead on
On 5 June, 17:11, Uncle Al <Uncle...(a)hate.spam.net> wrote:
> http://snarxiv.org/vs-arxiv/http://snarxiv.org/vs-arxiv/highscores/
>
> Choose between a published physics paper title and technobabble.  Make
> the binary choice, enjoy your running reality score.  
>
> --
> Uncle Alhttp://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
>  (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz4.htm

38% to start - rejected title if it looked too long winded.
62% - inverted above strategy.

Larry
From: Wayne Throop on
:: http://snarxiv.org/vs-arxiv/
:: http://snarxiv.org/vs-arxiv/highscores/

: blackhead <larryharson(a)softhome.net>
: 38% to start - rejected title if it looked too long winded.
: 62% - inverted above strategy.

Indeed. I seemed to get 63% if I just chose the longest title
consistently. With some minor tiebreaaking strategies for
titles of roughly equal length, like, if a title seemed *too*
much like gibberish, choose it as genuine, since the randomly
generated ones are unlikely to be quite so... gibberish-y.



Wayne Throop throopw(a)sheol.org http://sheol.org/throopw