From: RogerN on

Years back I played some with PIC microcontrollers but I've heard that
manufacturers are making better microcontrollers for less money.

Not looking for professional ICE or anything but maybe something competitive
with Microchips in circuit programmer/debugger. I was considering buying
Microchips ICD3 with PICDEM 2 board for $230, but thought maybe something
would be a better choice. I'm considering Atmels line but wanted some input
on others worth checking into.

Any recommendations on favorite microcontrollers that I can get up an
running with for a reasonable amount of dollars?

Thanks!

RogerN


From: MooseFET on
On Jan 13, 6:22 pm, "RogerN" <re...(a)midwest.net> wrote:
> Years back I played some with PIC microcontrollers but I've heard that
> manufacturers are making better microcontrollers for less money.
>
> Not looking for professional ICE or anything but maybe something competitive
> with Microchips in circuit programmer/debugger.  I was considering buying
> Microchips ICD3 with PICDEM 2 board for $230, but thought maybe something
> would be a better choice.  I'm considering Atmels line but wanted some input
> on others worth checking into.
>
> Any recommendations on favorite microcontrollers that I can get up an
> running with for a reasonable amount of dollars?

About $100 will get you going on the silabs devices.
You get:
8 input MUX to a ADC
2 DACs
A collection of counters
128K of code space
a few K of RAM
A couple of UARTs
A SPI port
A couple of comparators

>
> Thanks!
>
> RogerN

From: David L. Jones on
RogerN wrote:
> Years back I played some with PIC microcontrollers but I've heard that
> manufacturers are making better microcontrollers for less money.

Yes, PIC included. They have everything from 8bit 6pin chips that cost
cents, to 32bit processors that cost about $5.

> Not looking for professional ICE or anything but maybe something
> competitive with Microchips in circuit programmer/debugger. I was
> considering buying Microchips ICD3 with PICDEM 2 board for $230,

Forget the ICD3, the PICkit3 is all you need for program and debug, it's
essentially the same as the ICD3 but much cheaper.
The PICkit 3 on it's own is only $45, or a bit more with a demo board
included.
See my review:
http://www.eevblog.com/2009/10/21/eevblog-39-pickit-3-programmerdebugger-review/
Don't take in all the negative stuff, that's only in comparison to the older
PICkit2, it's actually a good programmer/debugger and is all you will need.

Atmel have a similar priced ISP programmer, but it doesn't do debug.

Don't touch third party or kit programmers, really, they are not worth the
hassle.

> but
> thought maybe something would be a better choice. I'm considering
> Atmels line but wanted some input on others worth checking into.

Atmel and PIC are essentially the "big two" (argue away...), you'd probably
only go with something else unless you have a specific need.

> Any recommendations on favorite microcontrollers that I can get up an
> running with for a reasonable amount of dollars?

The Arduino is arguably the easiest system to get up and running, and it's
all the rage, see my review:
http://www.eevblog.com/2009/11/21/eevblog-45-arduino-picaxe-and-idiot-assembler-programmers/
It uses an Atmel.
There is the PICAXE too, but you probably want something more than that.

All other raw micros (PIC, AVR, MSP430 etc) and their associated development
systems are about as equally annoying to get running for the beginner.

Dave.

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From: IanM on

"RogerN" <regor(a)midwest.net> wrote in message
news:xsmdnTA5VsCDHdPWnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d(a)earthlink.com...
>
> Years back I played some with PIC microcontrollers but I've heard that
> manufacturers are making better microcontrollers for less money.
>
> Not looking for professional ICE or anything but maybe something
> competitive with Microchips in circuit programmer/debugger. I was
> considering buying Microchips ICD3 with PICDEM 2 board for $230, but
> thought maybe something would be a better choice. I'm considering
> Atmels line but wanted some input on others worth checking into.
>
> Any recommendations on favorite microcontrollers that I can get up an
> running with for a reasonable amount of dollars?
>

If I get to choose, I use Z8XP

http://www.zilog.com/index.php?option=com_product&Itemid=26&mode=showFamilyDetails&familyId=6&parent_id=2

with this dev kit (~$50)

http://www.zilog.com/index.php?option=com_product&Itemid=26&mode=showProdDet&productId=Z8F04A08100KIT&businessLine=1&familyId=6





From: Jan Panteltje on
On a sunny day (Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:22:56 -0600) it happened "RogerN"
<regor(a)midwest.net> wrote in <xsmdnTA5VsCDHdPWnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d(a)earthlink.com>:

>
>Years back I played some with PIC microcontrollers but I've heard that
>manufacturers are making better microcontrollers for less money.
>
>Not looking for professional ICE or anything but maybe something competitive
>with Microchips in circuit programmer/debugger. I was considering buying
>Microchips ICD3 with PICDEM 2 board for $230, but thought maybe something
>would be a better choice. I'm considering Atmels line but wanted some input
>on others worth checking into.
>
>Any recommendations on favorite microcontrollers that I can get up an
>running with for a reasonable amount of dollars?
>
>Thanks!
>
>RogerN

There are no better micro controllers then PICs.
Next step up is a x86 :-)