From: colp on
On Jun 21, 5:28 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote:
> "colp" <c...(a)solder.ath.cx> wrote in message
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> > On Jun 21, 5:03 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote:
> >> "colp" <c...(a)solder.ath.cx> wrote in message
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> >>news:579d09e3-eb3a-46e9-a290-25a3d52145e0(a)a39g2000prb.googlegroups.com....
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> >> > On Jun 21, 4:30 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote:
> >> >> "colp" <c...(a)solder.ath.cx> wrote in message
>
> >> >>news:bd2683bc-e843-41a1-acc3-91fd70137ffd(a)h37g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
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> >> >> > On Jun 21, 3:25 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> "colp" <c...(a)solder.ath.cx> wrote in message
>
> >> >> >>news:572cf302-7007-41ba-a08d-77cf2dde07a7(a)40g2000pry.googlegroups..com...
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> >> >> >> > On Jun 21, 12:10 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> "colp" <c...(a)solder.ath.cx> wrote in message
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> >> >> >> >>news:73c42da8-03e8-4f07-acbf-92c78718d7ba(a)j36g2000prj.googlegroups.com...
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> >> >> >> >> > On Jun 20, 9:14 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> "colp" <c...(a)solder.ath.cx> wrote in message
>
> >> >> >> >> >> > What do you think that SR actually says about the symmetric
> >> >> >> >> >> > twin
> >> >> >> >> >> > thought experiment?
>
> >> >> >> >> >> You are the one making claims .. you'd been asked repeatedly
> >> >> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> >> >> show
> >> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> >> math backing up your claim.  you refuse to do so.  Until you
> >> >> >> >> >> do,
> >> >> >> >> >> you
> >> >> >> >> >> cannot
> >> >> >> >> >> be taken seriously
>
> >> >> >> >> > I have already shown the math, and I've also reposted it in
> >> >> >> >> > response
> >> >> >> >> > to an earlier post of yours.
>
> >> >> >> >> I've shown you are wrong
>
> >> >> >> > According to your logic you cannot be taken seriously.
>
> >> >> >> Of course I can .. by my own, and any reasonable logic.
>
> >> >> > Wrong. You said: "You are the one making claims .. you'd been asked
> >> >> > repeatedly to show the
> >> >> > math backing up your claim.  you refuse to do so.  Until you do, you
> >> >> > cannot be taken seriously"
>
> >> >> Yeup.
>
> >> >> > Do you think that I should live up to standards that you yourself
> >> >> > cannot live up to?
>
> >> >> I am not making the claims against SR.
>
> >> > You didn't answer the question.
>
> >> Yes .. I did.  You just dishonestly snipped it from your reply.
>
> And you just snipped it again

No, you are lying again.

>
> > You lied about posting the math for the turnaround
>
> I didn't claim to have posted the analysis..

You are lying again.

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From: "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com>
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Subject: Re: The Symmetric Twin Paradox
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 10:10:51 +1000

> Using your own
> standards, you cannot be taken seriously until you show the math with
> backs up your claim.

I have
From: eric gisse on
colp wrote:

[...]

Yes, arguing on USENET is a more effective means of learning relativity than
simply opening a textbook on the subject.

From: Inertial on
"colp" <colp(a)solder.ath.cx> wrote in message
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> On Jun 21, 5:28 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote:
>> "colp" <c...(a)solder.ath.cx> wrote in message
>>
>> news:9e6fb557-ea0f-418c-bc55-cac3603ef6aa(a)o28g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Jun 21, 5:03 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote:
>> >> "colp" <c...(a)solder.ath.cx> wrote in message
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>> >>news:579d09e3-eb3a-46e9-a290-25a3d52145e0(a)a39g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >> > On Jun 21, 4:30 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote:
>> >> >> "colp" <c...(a)solder.ath.cx> wrote in message
>>
>> >> >>news:bd2683bc-e843-41a1-acc3-91fd70137ffd(a)h37g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >> >> > On Jun 21, 3:25 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> "colp" <c...(a)solder.ath.cx> wrote in message
>>
>> >> >> >>news:572cf302-7007-41ba-a08d-77cf2dde07a7(a)40g2000pry.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >> >> >> > On Jun 21, 12:10 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> "colp" <c...(a)solder.ath.cx> wrote in message
>>
>> >> >> >> >>news:73c42da8-03e8-4f07-acbf-92c78718d7ba(a)j36g2000prj.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >> >> >> >> > On Jun 20, 9:14 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> "colp" <c...(a)solder.ath.cx> wrote in message
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > What do you think that SR actually says about the
>> >> >> >> >> >> > symmetric
>> >> >> >> >> >> > twin
>> >> >> >> >> >> > thought experiment?
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> You are the one making claims .. you'd been asked
>> >> >> >> >> >> repeatedly
>> >> >> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> >> >> show
>> >> >> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> >> math backing up your claim. you refuse to do so. Until
>> >> >> >> >> >> you
>> >> >> >> >> >> do,
>> >> >> >> >> >> you
>> >> >> >> >> >> cannot
>> >> >> >> >> >> be taken seriously
>>
>> >> >> >> >> > I have already shown the math, and I've also reposted it in
>> >> >> >> >> > response
>> >> >> >> >> > to an earlier post of yours.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> I've shown you are wrong
>>
>> >> >> >> > According to your logic you cannot be taken seriously.
>>
>> >> >> >> Of course I can .. by my own, and any reasonable logic.
>>
>> >> >> > Wrong. You said: "You are the one making claims .. you'd been
>> >> >> > asked
>> >> >> > repeatedly to show the
>> >> >> > math backing up your claim. you refuse to do so. Until you do,
>> >> >> > you
>> >> >> > cannot be taken seriously"
>>
>> >> >> Yeup.
>>
>> >> >> > Do you think that I should live up to standards that you yourself
>> >> >> > cannot live up to?
>>
>> >> >> I am not making the claims against SR.
>>
>> >> > You didn't answer the question.
>>
>> >> Yes .. I did. You just dishonestly snipped it from your reply.
>>
>> And you just snipped it again
>
> No, you are lying again.

I didn't lie. YOU snipped my answer to you

>> > You lied about posting the math for the turnaround
>>
>> I didn't claim to have posted the analysis..
>
> You are lying again.
>
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> Subject: Re: The Symmetric Twin Paradox
> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 10:10:51 +1000

Is that supposed to be proving something?

>> Using your own
>> standards, you cannot be taken seriously until you show the math with
>> backs up your claim.
>
> I have

Nope.