Mac OS X - Disappearing Menu
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From: Wes Groleau on 15 Jan 2010 00:02 Michelle Steiner wrote: > Wes Groleau <Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote: > >>> Oh. That term should be "minimized folders". I don't have them on my >>> Dock; they're hidden in the Finder's icon on the Dock, just like all >>> minimized windows from applications are hidden in their applications' >>> icons. >> New feature? In Tiger and Panther, if I minimize a window, a shrunken >> image of it goes to the right end of the dock, with a miniature of its >> app's icon in the corner of the window icon. > > New feature as of either Leopard or Snow Leopard; I forget which. It's a > Dock preference as to which way to do it. Ah. I'll set mine for the old way. I like being able to select which window to restore. Then again, the app icon also has a menu of windows on it. -- Wes Groleau He that complies against his will is of the same opinion still. -- Samuel Butler, 1612-1680
From: JF Mezei on 15 Jan 2010 02:43 TaliesinSoft wrote: > I have long wanted to have the menu at the top of the screen to appear and > disappear when needed, much as one can set the dock to do. A recent comment > here in these forums again reminded me of that want. Temporarily hiding the menu doesn't give you any advantage as long as windows are still prevented from occupying that space fully. I would much rather do away with the menu alltogether. Give each window its menu. And put system stuff (shutdown, empty trash etc) in the dock. When working with multiple displays, the single menu bar on only one display is a pain.
From: Steve R on 15 Jan 2010 04:11 JF Mezei wrote: > TaliesinSoft wrote: >> I have long wanted to have the menu at the top of the screen to appear and >> disappear when needed, much as one can set the dock to do. A recent comment >> here in these forums again reminded me of that want. > > Temporarily hiding the menu doesn't give you any advantage as long as > windows are still prevented from occupying that space fully. > > I would much rather do away with the menu alltogether. Give each window > its menu. And put system stuff (shutdown, empty trash etc) in the dock. > When working with multiple displays, the single menu bar on only one > display is a pain. Much as I hate to say so, I have to agree. More so since having multiple displays. What you describe is called "Windows". Not that I'm going to go that way - I'm retired now, so I don't have to any more! Steve
From: TaliesinSoft on 15 Jan 2010 09:02 On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 01:43:20 -0600, JF Mezei wrote (in article <00c168de$0$8200$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>): > TaliesinSoft wrote: >> I have long wanted to have the menu at the top of the screen to appear and >> disappear when needed, much as one can set the dock to do. A recent comment >> here in these forums again reminded me of that want. > > Temporarily hiding the menu doesn't give you any advantage as long as > windows are still prevented from occupying that space fully. > > I would much rather do away with the menu alltogether. Give each window > its menu. And put system stuff (shutdown, empty trash etc) in the dock. > When working with multiple displays, the single menu bar on only one > display is a pain. As I stated elsewhere in this thread the shadowing of the menu is for aesthetic reasons. Given my preferences I would like the menu to have the option of appearing when needed as does the dock. The problem, as I see it, of having the menu attached to individual menus is that frequently those windows would be too narrow and the menu would have to deal with that narrowness by folding or sliding. Also an advantage, at least to many human factors people, of having the menu at the top is that it is quicker to accurately position the cursor on the menu item you wish to activate. As far as multiple displays, it seems to me it would be simple for Apple to over one a choice of whether or not to have the menu so display. -- James Leo Ryan --- Austin, Texas --- taliesinsoft(a)me.com
From: TaliesinSoft on 15 Jan 2010 10:57
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 08:56:37 -0600, Michelle Steiner wrote (in article <michelle-60424B.07563615012010(a)news.eternal-september.org>): > In article <00c168de$0$8200$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>, > JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot(a)vaxination.ca> wrote: > >> I would much rather do away with the menu alltogether. Give each window >> its menu. > > Yuck. Putting the menu bar at the top of the display means that you can > never overshoot the menu. It has, in effect, as Tog says, "infinite > height". In many instances a right click in a window will produce a contextual menu relevant to that window. I suppose that a right click in the title bar of a window could result in a contextual menu equivalent to the menu at the top of the screen, giving one a choice to either use that menu or the one at the top. -- James Leo Ryan --- Austin, Texas --- taliesinsoft(a)me.com |