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From: Ed H. on 15 Jan 2010 18:01 In article <jollyroger-7C549D.20150114012010(a)news.individual.net>, Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > In article <1jcd449.1qg35gi1jy40w1N%jamiekg(a)wizardling.geek.nz>, > jamiekg(a)wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote: > --snip-- > > > > I used to be somewhat anti-Dock (I was a big Apple and contextual menu > > user, using BeHierarchic and FinderPop to open almost everything in > > classic MacOS), but I've gone the same way. > > Me too. I hated the Dock in the beginning. I still think it's got severe > limitations and is quite schizophrenic, but I'm able to live with it. I pretty much ignored the Dock until Leopard. I was a Drag Thing-man (and before that Drag Strip) and I always had my apps at the bottom of the screen. I positioned the Dock on the left side just to get it out of the way. I use it some now, but not heavily and do not wish it ill will. I just recently decided to give Launch Bar another look (I purchased it several years ago and just didn't use it) and I'm really liking it. The biggest challenge is getting into the habit of using it and learning to associate applications with letters rather than icons. -- Ed H.
From: Jolly Roger on 15 Jan 2010 18:15 In article <150120101701173634%fake(a)notreal.net>, "Ed H." <fake(a)notreal.net> wrote: > In article <jollyroger-7C549D.20150114012010(a)news.individual.net>, > Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > > > In article <1jcd449.1qg35gi1jy40w1N%jamiekg(a)wizardling.geek.nz>, > > jamiekg(a)wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote: > > > --snip-- > > > > > > I used to be somewhat anti-Dock (I was a big Apple and contextual menu > > > user, using BeHierarchic and FinderPop to open almost everything in > > > classic MacOS), but I've gone the same way. > > > > Me too. I hated the Dock in the beginning. I still think it's got severe > > limitations and is quite schizophrenic, but I'm able to live with it. > > I pretty much ignored the Dock until Leopard. I was a Drag Thing-man > (and before that Drag Strip) and I always had my apps at the bottom of > the screen. I positioned the Dock on the left side just to get it out > of the way. I use it some now, but not heavily and do not wish it ill > will. I just recently decided to give Launch Bar another look (I > purchased it several years ago and just didn't use it) and I'm really > liking it. The biggest challenge is getting into the habit of using it > and learning to associate applications with letters rather than icons. I'm a former DragThing user as well. I have ben using QuickSilver, and now LaunchBar for most quick access for over a year. I wonder how I did without it for so long. I'm constantly extending it in new ways. My Dock is now nothing more than an application switcher, window manager, and favorite folder holder. : ) -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
From: TaliesinSoft on 15 Jan 2010 23:28 On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 20:51:21 -0600, Michelle Steiner wrote (in article <michelle-72EDC1.19512115012010(a)news.eternal-september.org>): > In article <0001HW.C775ECA200236D6BB02A89BF(a)News.Individual.NET>, > TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft(a)me.com> wrote: > >> In many instances a right click in a window will produce a contextual >> menu relevant to that window. I suppose that a right click in the title >> bar of a window could result in a contextual menu equivalent to the menu >> at the top of the screen, giving one a choice to either use that menu or >> the one at the top. > > Right now, a right-click on the title bar which is also the tool bar) of a > Finder window brings up a contextual menu appropriate to the tool > bar--unless the right click is on the title itself, in which case, the > menu is the hierarchy of the window's folders. And that latter part > applies to application windows where it makes sense for that to happen. Interestingly I just now tried right-clicking in the title bar of several applications and experienced a variety of behaviors in regards to whether or not a contextual menu appearaed. What I would like is a convention where I could perform a particular click action and have that action produce a contextual version of the menu which at that moment is also appearing at the top of the screen. -- James Leo Ryan --- Austin, Texas --- taliesinsoft(a)me.com
From: TaliesinSoft on 15 Jan 2010 23:56 On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 22:47:38 -0600, Michelle Steiner wrote (in article <michelle-4A7D37.21473815012010(a)news.eternal-september.org>): > In article <0001HW.C7769C750000B745B01029BF(a)News.Individual.NET>, > TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft(a)me.com> wrote: > >> Interestingly I just now tried right-clicking in the title bar of several >> applications and experienced a variety of behaviors in regards to whether >> or not a contextual menu appearaed. What I would like is a convention >> where I could perform a particular click action and have that action >> produce a contextual version of the menu which at that moment is also >> appearing at the top of the screen. > > You would compress a 2D menu structure into 1D? I think that would become > very unwieldy. I'm not following the "2D to 1D" compression. The primary difference between the menu at the top and the contextual menu would be that the primary items would be listed vertically instead of horizontally. The remainder of the behavior would be essentially the same, position the cursor over one of the primary entries and the secondary entries would appear to the side (left or right as appropriate, depending on the position of the originating click) and from then on the behavior would be the same. -- James Leo Ryan --- Austin, Texas --- taliesinsoft(a)me.com
From: Tom Stiller on 16 Jan 2010 11:13
In article <michelle-EAF009.07193816012010(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote: > In article <0001HW.C776A31400024481B02A89BF(a)News.Individual.NET>, > TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft(a)me.com> wrote: > > > > You would compress a 2D menu structure into 1D? I think that would > > > become very unwieldy. > > > > I'm not following the "2D to 1D" compression. The primary difference > > between the menu at the top and the contextual menu would be that the > > primary items would be listed vertically instead of horizontally. > > Right. that makes the menu bar paradigm two dimensional. So is a contextual [vertical] menu with pop-out side submenus. It doesn't matter if the initial orientation is horizontal or vertical. -- Tom Stiller PGP fingerprint = 5108 DDB2 9761 EDE5 E7E3 7BDA 71ED 6496 99C0 C7CF |