From: Davoud on
I did more research following my earlier post (which drew only one
response, as Mr. Oates took the opportunity to bash Microsoft).

The problem is, AFAIK, limited to the latest generation MacBook Pro's
with Core i5 and Core i7 processors, and the Boot Camp utility that
ships with these machines. The error messages in Windows 7
troubleshooting are:

"Intel(R)Series/3400 Series Chipset Family USB Universal Host
Controller - 3B36 has a driver problem

Intel(R)Series/3400 Series Chipset Family USB Universal Host Controller
- 3B3B has a driver problem"

There is also a missing driver for the "Teredo Tunneling Pseudo
Interface" (IPV4/IPV6 related).

Like other hardware and software drivers, these should be installed by
BootCamp, but they are apparently not installed.

One report says that this bug affects Win 7 32-bit and 64-bit and XP
Pro 32-bit. Essentially, then, it seems that it is not possible to run
Windows on the latest generation of MacBook Pro's.

If anyone reading this has installed the above named OS's on a
latest-generation MB Pro and has not experienced these problems, I
would appreciate hearing about it.

Davoud

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From: David Empson on
Davoud <star(a)sky.net> wrote:

> I did more research following my earlier post (which drew only one
> response, as Mr. Oates took the opportunity to bash Microsoft).
>
> The problem is, AFAIK, limited to the latest generation MacBook Pro's
> with Core i5 and Core i7 processors, and the Boot Camp utility that
> ships with these machines. The error messages in Windows 7
> troubleshooting are:
>
> "Intel(R)Series/3400 Series Chipset Family USB Universal Host
> Controller - 3B36 has a driver problem
>
> Intel(R)Series/3400 Series Chipset Family USB Universal Host Controller
> - 3B3B has a driver problem"

The above two could be problems with Apple's Boot Camp drivers for the
new MacBook Pros.

Did you install the drivers using the DVD which came with the computer?

(I'd expect this sort of problem if you used the one on the retail Snow
Leopard DVD, for example, since the new MacBook Pros have new hardware
components.)

> There is also a missing driver for the "Teredo Tunneling Pseudo
> Interface" (IPV4/IPV6 related).

That's nothing to do with Apple. The Teredo Tunneling Pseudo Interface
is a software driver which comes with Windows, that is responsible for
encapsulating IPv6 traffic inside IPv4 packets, to allow them to travel
through an IPv4 NAT router without being corrupted.

It has nothing to do with the hardware - it is all handled at a higher
level.

<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb457011.aspx>

(Not yet updated to describe Windows 7.)

> Like other hardware and software drivers, these should be installed by
> BootCamp, but they are apparently not installed.
>
> One report says that this bug affects Win 7 32-bit and 64-bit and XP
> Pro 32-bit. Essentially, then, it seems that it is not possible to run
> Windows on the latest generation of MacBook Pro's.
>
> If anyone reading this has installed the above named OS's on a
> latest-generation MB Pro and has not experienced these problems, I
> would appreciate hearing about it.

I have the latest MacBook Pro but don't have Boot Camp set up on it (nor
do I have Windows 7), so can't help directly.

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David Empson
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From: Mark Conrad on
In article <300420102010129229%star(a)sky.net>, Davoud <star(a)sky.net>
wrote:

> If anyone reading this has installed the above named OS's on a
> latest-generation MB Pro and has not experienced these problems, I
> would appreciate hearing about it.

Davoud, it will take my new 17" MacBook Pro about two weeks
to arrive, but I will be happy to load up the 64-bit Win-7
and try to duplicate the problem.

So far, I have refrained from installing the 64-bit version
of Windows-7 until more drivers are available for it.

With my older MacBook Pro running the 32-bit version of
Windows-7, the crashes do not occur.

One place you might check is the knowbrainer.com
moderated forum:

<http://www.knowbrainer.com/pubforum/index.cfm?page=viewForumCategory&ca
tegoryId=2>

There is a moderator on that site who runs 64-bit
Windows-7, but he runs it on late model Intel i7 PC hardware,
he signs as "Chucker". (Chuck Runquist)

Chuck might be able to steer you where to download the drivers,
he is extremely helpful and should know where to download
the missing drivers - - - plus he worked with Microsoft and
was also was a team leader for a bunch of Dragon programmers.

Only hassle is that you would have to join the forum to post,
because it is moderated.

Mark-
From: Davoud on
David Empson wrote:

> Davoud wrote:
>
> > I did more research following my earlier post (which drew only one
> > response, as Mr. Oates took the opportunity to bash Microsoft).
> >
> > The problem is, AFAIK, limited to the latest generation MacBook Pro's
> > with Core i5 and Core i7 processors, and the Boot Camp utility that
> > ships with these machines. The error messages in Windows 7
> > troubleshooting are:
> >
> > "Intel(R)Series/3400 Series Chipset Family USB Universal Host
> > Controller - 3B36 has a driver problem
> >
> > Intel(R)Series/3400 Series Chipset Family USB Universal Host Controller
> > - 3B3B has a driver problem"
>
> The above two could be problems with Apple's Boot Camp drivers for the
> new MacBook Pros.

This is almost certainly the case. Others are experiencing the same
problem with the new generation MacBook Pro's. I do not know about
other Mac models.

> Did you install the drivers using the DVD which came with the computer?

Yes. It appears that the drivers are missing from Boot Camp in the
version that ships with the new MBP's.

> (I'd expect this sort of problem if you used the one on the retail Snow
> Leopard DVD, for example, since the new MacBook Pros have new hardware
> components.)
>
> > There is also a missing driver for the "Teredo Tunneling Pseudo
> > Interface" (IPV4/IPV6 related).
>
> That's nothing to do with Apple. The Teredo Tunneling Pseudo Interface
> is a software driver which comes with Windows, that is responsible for
> encapsulating IPv6 traffic inside IPv4 packets, to allow them to travel
> through an IPv4 NAT router without being corrupted.

OK, but could there not still be a separate Apple driver needed?
Whatever the case, the network runs just fine...
>
> It has nothing to do with the hardware - it is all handled at a higher
> level.
>
> <http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb457011.aspx>
>
> (Not yet updated to describe Windows 7.)
>
> > Like other hardware and software drivers, these should be installed by
> > BootCamp, but they are apparently not installed.
> >
> > One report says that this bug affects Win 7 32-bit and 64-bit and XP
> > Pro 32-bit. Essentially, then, it seems that it is not possible to run
> > Windows on the latest generation of MacBook Pro's.
> >
> > If anyone reading this has installed the above named OS's on a
> > latest-generation MB Pro and has not experienced these problems, I
> > would appreciate hearing about it.
>
> I have the latest MacBook Pro but don't have Boot Camp set up on it (nor
> do I have Windows 7), so can't help directly.

AFAIK, only Apple can help -- with a Boot Camp update.

Interestingly, I installed Parallels 5.0 on the machine and it has been
running with out a hitch for about 1/2 hour. That's about 25 minutes
longer than its record when booted directly. Hmmm. I don't know what
that means. It has given me time to D/L Safari and make it the default
browser, at least! And it has let me download two sets of updates and
restart successfully. (After an interruption here it has now been
running for 45 minutes.) Windows under Parallels would not activate
automatically on-line, but that is not unusual. The automated telephone
activation worked well enough, however.

Thanks,

Davoud

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From: David Empson on
Davoud <star(a)sky.net> wrote:

> David Empson wrote:
>
> > Davoud wrote:
> >
> > > I did more research following my earlier post (which drew only one
> > > response, as Mr. Oates took the opportunity to bash Microsoft).
> > >
> > > The problem is, AFAIK, limited to the latest generation MacBook Pro's
> > > with Core i5 and Core i7 processors, and the Boot Camp utility that
> > > ships with these machines. The error messages in Windows 7
> > > troubleshooting are:
> > >
> > > "Intel(R)Series/3400 Series Chipset Family USB Universal Host
> > > Controller - 3B36 has a driver problem
> > >
> > > Intel(R)Series/3400 Series Chipset Family USB Universal Host Controller
> > > - 3B3B has a driver problem"
> >
> > The above two could be problems with Apple's Boot Camp drivers for the
> > new MacBook Pros.
>
> This is almost certainly the case. Others are experiencing the same
> problem with the new generation MacBook Pro's. I do not know about
> other Mac models.
>
> > Did you install the drivers using the DVD which came with the computer?
>
> Yes. It appears that the drivers are missing from Boot Camp in the
> version that ships with the new MBP's.
>
> > (I'd expect this sort of problem if you used the one on the retail Snow
> > Leopard DVD, for example, since the new MacBook Pros have new hardware
> > components.)
> >
> > > There is also a missing driver for the "Teredo Tunneling Pseudo
> > > Interface" (IPV4/IPV6 related).
> >
> > That's nothing to do with Apple. The Teredo Tunneling Pseudo Interface
> > is a software driver which comes with Windows, that is responsible for
> > encapsulating IPv6 traffic inside IPv4 packets, to allow them to travel
> > through an IPv4 NAT router without being corrupted.
>
> OK, but could there not still be a separate Apple driver needed?
>
> Whatever the case, the network runs just fine...

If IPv4 is working, then there is no hardware driver involved to get
IPv6 working on top of it; even IPv6 working directly on the same
network hardware would be fine.

The Ethernet hardware might need a driver from the vendor, but the same
driver would be used for all protocols.

> Interestingly, I installed Parallels 5.0 on the machine and it has been
> running with out a hitch for about 1/2 hour. That's about 25 minutes
> longer than its record when booted directly. Hmmm. I don't know what
> that means.

Nothing. Parallels implements a virtual machine, so Windows running
inside Parallels is using drivers supplied by Parallels. They don't have
direct access to the Mac's hardware. Any hardware features needed by
Parallels are indirectly using drivers in Mac OS X, which work fine.

Boot Camp drivers have nothing to do with running Windows in a virtual
machine.

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David Empson
dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz