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From: Jolly Roger on 24 Jun 2010 16:07
In article <1t-dnQbUxb6CJb7RnZ2dnUVZ_sidnZ2d(a)speakeasy.net>,
Norm <NOSPAM(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <jollyroger-A01A1A.14374924062010(a)news.individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <ZK-dnUpTSP5RML7RnZ2dnUVZ_sydnZ2d(a)speakeasy.net>,
> > Norm <NOSPAM(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <240620101000230861%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>,
> > > nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:
> > >
> > > > In article <NvSdnTQUt7xAH77RnZ2dnUVZ_u6dnZ2d(a)speakeasy.net>, Norm
> > > > <NOSPAM(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > My wife's MBP 2006 2.16 Core Duo has suddenly started to have random
> > > > > shutdowns.
> > > >
> > > > is it on battery or plugged in? sudden shutdown is normally a failing
> > > > battery and a 4 year old battery very likely is past it's useful life.
> > >
> > >
> > > OP back.
> > >
> > > Perhaps I wasn't very clear in the way I posted the results when running
> > > in both modes: Battery and also Power Adapter.
> > >
> > > So it does the random sudden shutdown in both.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> >
> > Have you looked at the system log at all?
>
> Nope.
>
> Not sure I'd be able to decipher. I'll take a look. I assume I'll find
> it at "system log" ;)
>
> Appreciate.

The system log is at /var/log/system.log and will usually give you an
indication as to what is causing startup and low-level issues, where the
console log typically shows only issues you experience after you are
logged into your user account.

Feel free to post *relevant portions* (entries that are time stamped
around the time of the occurrence, for instance) of the logs here if you
need help understanding them. We'll be glad to take a look and tell you
what we see.

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From: Norm on 24 Jun 2010 20:02
In article <240620101301483954%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>,
nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <1t-dnQbUxb6CJb7RnZ2dnUVZ_sidnZ2d(a)speakeasy.net>, Norm
> <NOSPAM(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Not sure I'd be able to decipher. I'll take a look. I assume I'll find
> > it at "system log" ;)
>
> console application, in utilities folder.

Found it. What am I looking for?

Thanks.

--
Norm
From: Norm on 24 Jun 2010 20:04
In article <jollyroger-113E7E.15073424062010(a)news.individual.net>,
Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:

> In article <1t-dnQbUxb6CJb7RnZ2dnUVZ_sidnZ2d(a)speakeasy.net>,
> Norm <NOSPAM(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
> > In article <jollyroger-A01A1A.14374924062010(a)news.individual.net>,
> > Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <ZK-dnUpTSP5RML7RnZ2dnUVZ_sydnZ2d(a)speakeasy.net>,
> > > Norm <NOSPAM(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:
> > >
> > > > In article <240620101000230861%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>,
> > > > nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > In article <NvSdnTQUt7xAH77RnZ2dnUVZ_u6dnZ2d(a)speakeasy.net>, Norm
> > > > > <NOSPAM(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > My wife's MBP 2006 2.16 Core Duo has suddenly started to have
> > > > > > random
> > > > > > shutdowns.
> > > > >
> > > > > is it on battery or plugged in? sudden shutdown is normally a failing
> > > > > battery and a 4 year old battery very likely is past it's useful
> > > > > life.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > OP back.
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps I wasn't very clear in the way I posted the results when
> > > > running
> > > > in both modes: Battery and also Power Adapter.
> > > >
> > > > So it does the random sudden shutdown in both.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Have you looked at the system log at all?
> >
> > Nope.
> >
> > Not sure I'd be able to decipher. I'll take a look. I assume I'll find
> > it at "system log" ;)
> >
> > Appreciate.
>
> The system log is at /var/log/system.log and will usually give you an
> indication as to what is causing startup and low-level issues, where the
> console log typically shows only issues you experience after you are
> logged into your user account.
>
> Feel free to post *relevant portions* (entries that are time stamped
> around the time of the occurrence, for instance) of the logs here if you
> need help understanding them. We'll be glad to take a look and tell you
> what we see.

Thanks very much.

I'll get it to do another Sudden Shutdown and post.

--
Norm
From: nospam on 24 Jun 2010 20:11
In article <HdWdnUfIkfO5b77RnZ2dnUVZ_gadnZ2d(a)speakeasy.net>, Norm
<NOSPAM(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:

> > > Not sure I'd be able to decipher. I'll take a look. I assume I'll find
> > > it at "system log" ;)
> >
> > console application, in utilities folder.
>
> Found it. What am I looking for?

something related to why it's shutting down, but my bet is on the
battery. take it to a store and let apple run their diagnostics and
test it with a new battery.

you can try a simpler version of the diagnostics by booting the system
dvd and holding down the 'd' key.
From: John McWilliams on 24 Jun 2010 22:02
Norm wrote:
> My wife's MBP 2006 2.16 Core Duo has suddenly started to have random
> shutdowns.
>
> In searching newsgroups, there are many, many posts for this problem. A
> problem that I didn't know existed.
>
> At any rate, we are traveling, not near any Apple service centers and I
> don't have any of my "computer" tools with me.
>
> Anyone know of any software fixes that may work? The number of posts is
> very large and seemingly of many different varieties.
>
> Her MBP is at 10.6.2. I'm trying to upgrade her to 10.6.4 thinking that
> may help. I'm sure that is false hope.
>
> When I try to install the downloaded OS X Update it gets about 25% of
> progress bar when in battery mode and about 40% in AC when it expeiences
> this random immediate shutdown. My wife had experienced this same
> behavior just in last two days (never before) when using video iChat.
>
> In using iStat Pro dashboard, it reads about 78 degrees for the CPU
> after doing the above and restarting. Maybe there is a full time iStat
> but I don't have it installed on her Mac.
>
> I tried booting from an external drive and installing the OS Update and
> the same shutdown happened.
>
> Any suggestions appreciated. Thanks.

Are your fans on a lot? Not at all? Your temp. gage is borked. After
doing almost anything, the CPU will be well above 100 in my experience.
You may be running too hot, and that could be the cause of shutting
down. Also, do you generally run a lot of apps at once?

Have you done a power manager reset? IIRC, battery out, hold down power
button until it dings. I'd suggest you look at the Apple page on that
rather than rely on my memory.

--
john mcwilliams
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