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From: JF Mezei on 9 Apr 2010 09:00 Warren Oates wrote: > We used to use the telephone. It's private, and in times of crisis or > tragedy there's always someone (family or close friend) who's willing to > do the 'phoning. Does the telephone not work anymore, now that everyone > seems to have one in his pocket? Last year, there was another accident in the family (stroke) which lead to a death. My cousin who was taking care of this (she is the one that died this time around) was very effective in communicating with the rest of the family, both via frequent emails and via telephone. This time around, her sister expressely asked not to be disturbed by phone and said she would keep us informed by facebook. And this is failing because it has gotten to a point where this isn't public anymore and facebook is no longer appropriate, but it seems it is the only thing she knows how to do. So we end up having to use Google to find press articles about this (it is being followed by the press). So the facebook generation is a bit like math teachers fearing kids would forget how to add if they became addicted to calculators. People get addicted to facebook and forget other means of communicating. You know, I really don't care to know that someone watered their plants yesterday. But I would like to get the results of the toxicology report to find out if the husband put any chemicals in the rag before stuffing it in my cousin's mouth to kill her.
From: Phillip Jones on 9 Apr 2010 09:29 Warren Oates wrote: > In article<4bbe3d58$0$24219$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>, > JF Mezei<jfmezei.spamnot(a)vaxination.ca> wrote: > >> It is interesting to find a generation who swear by facebook and nothing >> else, and they don't care to use email to inform people privately of stuff. > > We used to use the telephone. It's private, and in times of crisis or > tragedy there's always someone (family or close friend) who's willing to > do the 'phoning. Does the telephone not work anymore, now that everyone > seems to have one in his pocket? Yes I use a regular wired Telephone for business Purposes. But Cell phone for personal stuff. Cell phones are just a form of two way radios and if some one has the right equipment they might could listen in. As for email search engines such as Google, Yahoo!, and Bing, make sure everything you say down to the cuss words, and the "7 words your not supposed to say on tv", are out there to look up. The only private way to talk to any one anymore is to walk or get in your vehicle, and go to the person you want to talk to, take them to a specific room close and lock the door and talk. otherwise its public information. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. "If it's Fixed, Don't Break it" http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjones1(a)kimbanet.com
From: Warren Oates on 9 Apr 2010 09:39 In article <hpna37$7ib$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Phillip Jones <pjones1(a)kimbanet.com> wrote: > Yes I use a regular wired Telephone for business Purposes. But Cell > phone for personal stuff. Cell phones are just a form of two way radios > and if some one has the right equipment they might could listen in. As > for email search engines such as Google, Yahoo!, and Bing, make sure > everything you say down to the cuss words, and the "7 words your not > supposed to say on tv", are out there to look up. The only private way > to talk to any one anymore is to walk or get in your vehicle, and go to > the person you want to talk to, take them to a specific room close and > lock the door and talk. otherwise its public information. Yeah, but that's hysterical thinking. No one is monitoring _my_ cel phone communications, even though I know that they could and even though I take privacy (and anonymity if I need it) very seriously. There are too many cel phones with too much mundane communication going on for the black hats (tanbh) to be listening in and taking names. We're discussing a particular circumstance here. -- Very old woody beets will never cook tender. -- Fannie Farmer
From: Phillip Jones on 9 Apr 2010 10:12 Warren Oates wrote: > In article<hpna37$7ib$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, > Phillip Jones<pjones1(a)kimbanet.com> wrote: > >> Yes I use a regular wired Telephone for business Purposes. But Cell >> phone for personal stuff. Cell phones are just a form of two way radios >> and if some one has the right equipment they might could listen in. As >> for email search engines such as Google, Yahoo!, and Bing, make sure >> everything you say down to the cuss words, and the "7 words your not >> supposed to say on tv", are out there to look up. The only private way >> to talk to any one anymore is to walk or get in your vehicle, and go to >> the person you want to talk to, take them to a specific room close and >> lock the door and talk. otherwise its public information. > > Yeah, but that's hysterical thinking. No one is monitoring _my_ cel > phone communications, even though I know that they could and even though > I take privacy (and anonymity if I need it) very seriously. There are > too many cel phones with too much mundane communication going on for the > black hats (tanbh) to be listening in and taking names. > > We're discussing a particular circumstance here. I take calls from my doctor. and and even do some banking on my cell on occasion. So even though I know about the possibilities I go ahead and use them. But the only truly private conversation that can go on. is like I said lock the two parties in a room you know is bug free. Every other thing is public record. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. "If it's Fixed, Don't Break it" http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjones1(a)kimbanet.com
From: Warren Oates on 9 Apr 2010 10:36
In article <hpncjt$rb0$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Phillip Jones <pjones1(a)kimbanet.com> wrote: > But the only truly private conversation that can go on. is like I said > lock the two parties in a room you know is bug free. Every other thing > is public record. We're not really in disagreement here. I have a friends I email using PGP. -- Very old woody beets will never cook tender. -- Fannie Farmer |