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From: BURT on 18 Apr 2010 16:31 On Apr 18, 10:38 am, funkenstein <luke.s...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > B:=curl A > > -> div B = 0 > > There are no magnetic monopoles, unless you want to redefine > magnetism. > > On Apr 15, 7:35 am, mathematician <hapor...(a)luukku.com> wrote: > > > > > I looked the Standard Model page from Wikipedia, and > > I noticed that one important matter which I remember > > that H-M told long time a go was that > > > "Magnetic monopole is half a gluon" > > > I have thought possibilities that magnetic monopoles > > could be those small right neutrinos binded as couples > > or magnetic monopoles could be right and wrong neutrino > > couples binded together ? > > > Hannu Poropudas- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - What about the magnetic field of a light wave? How many poles does it have?
From: Androcles on 18 Apr 2010 20:02 "Uncle Ben" <ben(a)greenba.com> wrote in message news:7d385be8-7f92-4102-ae3c-ba8296373e68(a)u32g2000vbc.googlegroups.com... On Apr 16, 3:12 am, mathematician <hapor...(a)luukku.com> wrote: > On 15 huhti, 17:58, Puppet_Sock <puppet_s...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Apr 15, 1:35 am, mathematician <hapor...(a)luukku.com> wrote: > > > > I looked the Standard Model page from Wikipedia, and > > > I noticed that one important matter which I remember > > > that H-M told long time a go was that > > > > "Magnetic monopole is half a gluon" > > > > I have thought possibilities that magnetic monopoles > > > could be those small right neutrinos binded as couples > > > or magnetic monopoles could be right and wrong neutrino > > > couples binded together ? > > > Word salad is not a substitute for careful thought. > > > A gluon is an intermediate vector bozon for the strong force. > > > A magnetic monopole is a (postulated but not yet observed) > > particle with a magnetic charge. It arises from some grand > > and super unification theories. In those theories it does not > > arise in any way related to "half a gluon." > > > The interactions a gluon may go through do not include > > splitting in half to form a magnetic monopole. > > > Monopoles arise in a theory that involves symmetry breaking. > > Because magnetic field lines ordinarly do not have an end, > > there has to be some special process that allows them to > > have a source or sync at a magnetic charge. This is done > > through spontaneous symmetry breaking in the usual theory > > that involves them. > > Socks > > I think that knowledge that > "magentic monopole is half of a gluon" > could be important unknown relation between > electromagnetism and strong interaction ? > > Hannu- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - A magentic monopole is a purplish narrow column that can carry one flag. A magnetic monopole is a so-far-imaginary sub-atomic particle. Uncle Ben ===================================================== An electric monopole is a so-far-imaginary sub-atomic particle called an electron. It has an antipole called a proton, not to be confused with protium.
From: BURT on 18 Apr 2010 20:40 On Apr 18, 5:02 pm, "Androcles" <Headmas...(a)Hogwarts.physics_y> wrote: > "Uncle Ben" <b...(a)greenba.com> wrote in message > > news:7d385be8-7f92-4102-ae3c-ba8296373e68(a)u32g2000vbc.googlegroups.com... > On Apr 16, 3:12 am, mathematician <hapor...(a)luukku.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On 15 huhti, 17:58, Puppet_Sock <puppet_s...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Apr 15, 1:35 am, mathematician <hapor...(a)luukku.com> wrote: > > > > > I looked the Standard Model page from Wikipedia, and > > > > I noticed that one important matter which I remember > > > > that H-M told long time a go was that > > > > > "Magnetic monopole is half a gluon" > > > > > I have thought possibilities that magnetic monopoles > > > > could be those small right neutrinos binded as couples > > > > or magnetic monopoles could be right and wrong neutrino > > > > couples binded together ? > > > > Word salad is not a substitute for careful thought. > > > > A gluon is an intermediate vector bozon for the strong force. > > > > A magnetic monopole is a (postulated but not yet observed) > > > particle with a magnetic charge. It arises from some grand > > > and super unification theories. In those theories it does not > > > arise in any way related to "half a gluon." > > > > The interactions a gluon may go through do not include > > > splitting in half to form a magnetic monopole. > > > > Monopoles arise in a theory that involves symmetry breaking. > > > Because magnetic field lines ordinarly do not have an end, > > > there has to be some special process that allows them to > > > have a source or sync at a magnetic charge. This is done > > > through spontaneous symmetry breaking in the usual theory > > > that involves them. > > > Socks > > > I think that knowledge that > > "magentic monopole is half of a gluon" > > could be important unknown relation between > > electromagnetism and strong interaction ? > > > Hannu- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > A magentic monopole is a purplish narrow column that can carry one > flag. > A magnetic monopole is a so-far-imaginary sub-atomic particle. > > Uncle Ben > ===================================================== > An electric monopole is a so-far-imaginary sub-atomic particle called an > electron. > It has an antipole called a proton, not to be confused with protium.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - There is only one electric field for electric matter. Protons and electrons have to be forced together. But what does that mean if they are atractive to each other? Mitch Raemsch
From: mathematician on 19 Apr 2010 01:07 On 16 huhti, 20:14, Puppet_Sock <puppet_s...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 16, 3:12 am, mathematician <hapor...(a)luukku.com> wrote: > [snip] > > > I think that knowledge that > > "magentic monopole is half of a gluon" > > could be important unknown relation between > > electromagnetism and strong interaction ? > > That is not a useful statement. It is a garbled > collection of words jumbled together. It is word salad. > > We know the nature of electromagnetism. We know how the > strong force behaves. Neither includes magnetic monopoles. > To get monopoles you need to go outside the behaviour of the > strong and electromagnetic forces. > > Read a book. Repeat as required. > Socks In one H-M's other drawing there were eight different color magnetic monopoles with related six different color light particles. Situation is much complicated that we have thought? Hannu
From: mathematician on 19 Apr 2010 01:39
On 19 huhti, 08:07, mathematician <hapor...(a)luukku.com> wrote: > On 16 huhti, 20:14, Puppet_Sock <puppet_s...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Apr 16, 3:12 am, mathematician <hapor...(a)luukku.com> wrote: > > [snip] > > > > I think that knowledge that > > > "magentic monopole is half of a gluon" > > > could be important unknown relation between > > > electromagnetism and strong interaction ? > > > That is not a useful statement. It is a garbled > > collection of words jumbled together. It is word salad. > > > We know the nature of electromagnetism. We know how the > > strong force behaves. Neither includes magnetic monopoles. > > To get monopoles you need to go outside the behaviour of the > > strong and electromagnetic forces. > > > Read a book. Repeat as required. > > Socks > > In one H-M's other drawing there were eight different > color magnetic monopoles with related six different color > light particles. > > Situation is much complicated that we have thought? > > Hannu More thoughts of mine: I have thought possibility that four of these color magnetic monopoles would be wrong color neutrinos and other four color magnetic monopoles would be four color right neutrinos. And I have also thought a possibility that those six color light particles would be color small right neutrino couples. Hannu |