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From: John-Del on 22 Jan 2010 17:58
On Jan 22, 10:50 am, "Anon" <nos...(a)tbrr.net> wrote:


 Both TV and VCR are outputting to Bose 1-2-3 Home
> surround sound system. 1-2-3 does not have a separate center speaker but is
> created using a wave channel from each of the side speakers.

Uh oh, get ready to duck. The Bose haters are warming up in the
bullpen.....

The lack of a center channel is still causing this. I do this for a
living, and deal with it constantly. Turn the TV speakers back on,
put the TV in mono, adjust the TV level to match the Bose, and the
problem will go away. It's not a perfect center channel, but it'll
do.

John
From: Klaatu on 24 Jan 2010 12:54

"Anon" <nospam(a)tbrr.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Klaatu" <nospam(a)today.com> wrote in message
> news:wJidnYb219gkN8XWnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d(a)centurytel.net...
>>
>> "Anon" <nospam(a)tbrr.net> wrote in message
>> news:4b57203c$0$5095$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>>I am a long-time lurker in s.e.r and have read much great advice, some of
>>>which I have put into use. To be clear, I have no intention of
>>>attempting a repair on this TV. I have weak (de)soldering skills. The
>>>only servicing I do on TVs, is to reseat a daughterboard or stripping
>>>them for components (and practice desoldering without destruction).
>>>
>>> The problem I hear is on a number of channels including some major
>>> networks local stations. The background sounds (and music) overpowers
>>> any voices. To me it seems as though the quieter "background" sound is
>>> being fed through the louder "foreground" channel, and viceversa. The
>>> problem however only occurs on this TV and cannot be (entirely) the
>>> broadcasters fault. Additionally, if I recieve and output the audio
>>> portion with a VHS VCR, it sounds just fine. (Wife hates it because you
>>> need two remotes to mute or adjust the volume). To clarify, the TV's
>>> audio and the VCR's audio both go through the same surround sound
>>> system, not using the TV's speakers. Outputting the TV's audio thru its
>>> own speakers is even worse.
>>>
>>> I have even seen OpEd complaints towards the local broadcasters
>>> regarding this same issue in our newspaper occasionally over the past
>>> few years. I have asked Sears techs who have come for warranty service
>>> on the set, but was assured there are no "rear" and "front" audio
>>> channels.
>>>
>>> Tonal range of the background has little effect. High pitch (street)
>>> background noise still overpowers voices, like the rumbling lows of a
>>> musical score.
>>>
>>> This problem is easy for us to bypass with the separate audio, so it
>>> really is only my curiosity asking. With all the skilled service techs
>>> contributing here, maybe someone has run into this before, that can
>>> offer an explanation?
>>>
>>> Scott
>>> Dunedin, FL
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Assuming that you have checked all the audio settings, and they are
>> correct for your situation,
>> having one channel speaker physically out of phase with the other may
>> cause this problem.
>> If you can get to them, try reversing the leads on one speaker ONLY, as
>> see if the problem
>> goes away.
>
> Klaatu,
>
> Thanks! However would this affect the TV's audio output "without" the
> internal speakers? Even with the internal speakers turned off, the TV's
> audio sent thru the Bose 1-2-3 surround system, exhibits the louder
> background sound.
>
> Thanks!
> Scott
> Dunedin, FL
>
>
One last thought.....if you are using standard RCA male to male plugs to run
audio from the TV to the Bose, replace that cable. See if that helps.

From: David Nebenzahl on 24 Jan 2010 19:35
On 1/24/2010 9:54 AM Klaatu spake thus:

>>> "Anon" <nospam(a)tbrr.net> wrote in message
>>> news:4b57203c$0$5095$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>>
>>>> The problem I hear is on a number of channels including some
>>>> major networks local stations. The background sounds (and
>>>> music) overpowers any voices. To me it seems as though the
>>>> quieter "background" sound is being fed through the louder
>>>> "foreground" channel, and viceversa. The problem however only
>>>> occurs on this TV and cannot be (entirely) the broadcasters
>>>> fault. Additionally, if I recieve and output the audio portion
>>>> with a VHS VCR, it sounds just fine. (Wife hates it because
>>>> you need two remotes to mute or adjust the volume). To clarify,
>>>> the TV's audio and the VCR's audio both go through the same
>>>> surround sound system, not using the TV's speakers. Outputting
>>>> the TV's audio thru its own speakers is even worse.
>
> One last thought.....if you are using standard RCA male to male plugs
> to run audio from the TV to the Bose, replace that cable. See if
> that helps.

How could that *possibly* affect the problem the OP reported?


--
You were wrong, and I'm man enough to admit it.

- a Usenet "apology"
From: Klaatu on 24 Jan 2010 23:42

"David Nebenzahl" <nobody(a)but.us.chickens> wrote in message
news:4b5ce6d7$0$4838$822641b3(a)news.adtechcomputers.com...
> On 1/24/2010 9:54 AM Klaatu spake thus:
>
>>>> "Anon" <nospam(a)tbrr.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:4b57203c$0$5095$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>>>
>>>>> The problem I hear is on a number of channels including some major
>>>>> networks local stations. The background sounds (and music) overpowers
>>>>> any voices. To me it seems as though the quieter "background" sound is
>>>>> being fed through the louder "foreground" channel, and viceversa. The
>>>>> problem however only occurs on this TV and cannot be (entirely) the
>>>>> broadcasters fault. Additionally, if I recieve and output the audio
>>>>> portion
>>>>> with a VHS VCR, it sounds just fine. (Wife hates it because
>>>>> you need two remotes to mute or adjust the volume). To clarify,
>>>>> the TV's audio and the VCR's audio both go through the same surround
>>>>> sound system, not using the TV's speakers. Outputting
>>>>> the TV's audio thru its own speakers is even worse.
>>
>> One last thought.....if you are using standard RCA male to male plugs
>> to run audio from the TV to the Bose, replace that cable. See if
>> that helps.
>
> How could that *possibly* affect the problem the OP reported?
>
>
> --
> You were wrong, and I'm man enough to admit it.
>
> - a Usenet "apology"

I've run across several "inexpensive" Chinese cables where not only the
colors were wrong
(red plug at one end, but black plug on the other...reversed) but also
cables where the internal wiring was reversed at one end, on one side of the
stereo cable. That was in a car stereo installation, and I had run the
cable under moulding and carpeting, then had no bass and poor imaging when I
fired the completed unit up. I was not pleased.
Nothing else has helped the OP come up with a solution, it was just a
suggestion.

Klaatu

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