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From: eastender on 4 Aug 2010 11:00 In article <saramerriman-F93E60.10315104082010(a)news.individual.net>, Sara <saramerriman(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > > I'm on VM cable and obviously have to use its smtp for outgoing mail. > > No, you don't. I use several different ones, none of them the VM one. Isn't a bit of hassle to bypass the ISP's SMTP? What do you do? E.
From: Sara on 4 Aug 2010 11:28 In article <nospam-5D91C4.16001604082010(a)news.virginmedia.com>, eastender <nospam(a)nospam.com> wrote: > In article <saramerriman-F93E60.10315104082010(a)news.individual.net>, > Sara <saramerriman(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > > > > I'm on VM cable and obviously have to use its smtp for outgoing mail. > > > > No, you don't. I use several different ones, none of them the VM one. > > Isn't a bit of hassle to bypass the ISP's SMTP? What do you do? > No hassle at all - just enter your own SMTP details into Mail.app the same way you would for VM's SMTP. I've got my work email there, my own domain and also a mailhop account for sending email to people whose ISPs class all email from personal domains on dynamic IP addresses as spam. -- Sara Run out of ideas for a sig for the moment
From: Chris Ridd on 4 Aug 2010 11:37 On 2010-08-04 16:00:16 +0100, eastender said: > In article <saramerriman-F93E60.10315104082010(a)news.individual.net>, > Sara <saramerriman(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > >>> I'm on VM cable and obviously have to use its smtp for outgoing mail. >> >> No, you don't. I use several different ones, none of them the VM one. > > Isn't a bit of hassle to bypass the ISP's SMTP? What do you do? I'm not sure what you mean by "bypass" here. I'm on VM, and I use 4 mail accounts at home. 1. The VM one is configured to talk to VM for SMTP and IMAP. 2. The MobileMe one is configured to talk directly to MobileMe for SMTP and IMAP. 3. The Gmail one is configured to talk directly to Gmail for SMTP and "IMAP". 4. The work one is configured to talk directly to work for SMTP and IMAP. Do you call the last three bypassing VM? -- Chris
From: eastender on 4 Aug 2010 16:25 In article <8btfqdFrqtU1(a)mid.individual.net>, Chris Ridd <chrisridd(a)mac.com> wrote: > On 2010-08-04 16:00:16 +0100, eastender said: > > I'm not sure what you mean by "bypass" here. > > I'm on VM, and I use 4 mail accounts at home. > > 1. The VM one is configured to talk to VM for SMTP and IMAP. > > 2. The MobileMe one is configured to talk directly to MobileMe for SMTP > and IMAP. > > 3. The Gmail one is configured to talk directly to Gmail for SMTP and "IMAP". > > 4. The work one is configured to talk directly to work for SMTP and IMAP. > > Do you call the last three bypassing VM? Out of those four I presume only Gmail is free (although I'm not sure - Yahoo charge for using POP to access their email). What I'm getting at is can you use the Gmail smtp server, or MobileMe/work smtp servers, from your VM ISP connection and quote any From address you like? For example, I use primarily two accounts - a BTconnect one (I pay �5 a month to keep this as a basic address) and a Compuserve one (now free). I quote either of these in my outgoing mail using VM (I don't use VM mail) but I use the VM smtp server to send mail. I'm pretty certain that when I last looked into this I couldn't use say the BTconnect smtp from home where VM is, even when I paid a full ISP fee at my old office. (And in fact some ISPs used to/do stop you quoting any other From address other than their own domain - BT did/does this). Now I expect if you pay for other ISPs you can indeed access other outgoing servers, but I'd rather just pay one full ISP fee, but it is clearly useful to access another if I can if VM smtp goes down. There's always webmail I suppose but that's no good for my carefully configured Mail system. Sorry - that's a bit rambling... E.
From: Sara on 5 Aug 2010 04:10
In article <nospam-D8B8B8.21255204082010(a)news.virginmedia.com>, eastender <nospam(a)nospam.com> wrote: > In article <8btfqdFrqtU1(a)mid.individual.net>, > Chris Ridd <chrisridd(a)mac.com> wrote: > > > On 2010-08-04 16:00:16 +0100, eastender said: > > > > > I'm not sure what you mean by "bypass" here. > > > > I'm on VM, and I use 4 mail accounts at home. > > > > 1. The VM one is configured to talk to VM for SMTP and IMAP. > > > > 2. The MobileMe one is configured to talk directly to MobileMe for SMTP > > and IMAP. > > > > 3. The Gmail one is configured to talk directly to Gmail for SMTP and > > "IMAP". > > > > 4. The work one is configured to talk directly to work for SMTP and IMAP. > > > > Do you call the last three bypassing VM? > > Out of those four I presume only Gmail is free (although I'm not sure - > Yahoo charge for using POP to access their email). What I'm getting at > is can you use the Gmail smtp server, or MobileMe/work smtp servers, > from your VM ISP connection and quote any From address you like? > > For example, I use primarily two accounts - a BTconnect one (I pay �5 a > month to keep this as a basic address) and a Compuserve one (now free). > I quote either of these in my outgoing mail using VM (I don't use VM > mail) but I use the VM smtp server to send mail. I'm pretty certain that > when I last looked into this I couldn't use say the BTconnect smtp from > home where VM is, even when I paid a full ISP fee at my old office. (And > in fact some ISPs used to/do stop you quoting any other From address > other than their own domain - BT did/does this). > > Now I expect if you pay for other ISPs you can indeed access other > outgoing servers, but I'd rather just pay one full ISP fee, but it is > clearly useful to access another if I can if VM smtp goes down. > > There's always webmail I suppose but that's no good for my carefully > configured Mail system. > > Sorry - that's a bit rambling... > I'm confused here - if it helps, you can use any SMTP service that you have a right to, whether it's free or paid for. If you have no other account than VM, then that is the one you have to use purely because it's the only one you will have login details for. -- Sara Run out of ideas for a sig for the moment |