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From: Ol�rin on 2 Mar 2010 04:32 Why did you do that? Was it to indirectly address Ken's point about reducing use of the page file? Regardless, how have YOU found your system to be since you made this change? If things have improved (which they completely won't have) then stick with it; otherwise, change it back. Common sense, really. I'd set it to System Managed Size, tbh, just to get things back up and running while you tootle down to your local PC shop and ask if they have any spare RAM modules that old. They've probably got some secondhand ones kicking around that they'd let you have for 50p [other currencies are available]. Another 256MB would probably make a world of difference for minimal cost (though check how many slots your motherboard ahs, and how many are already used). "tmb867" <tmb867(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:D004EA10-390A-418D-8DF7-A3DE5748460C(a)microsoft.com... >I changed it to No Paging File, is that ok. > > "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote: > >> On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 13:16:01 -0800, tmb867 >> <tmb867(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >> >> > i guess my question is can I add more? Or how do I figure out if I CAN >> > add >> > more? >> >> >> For the answer to that question, you have to check the specs for your >> motherboard. >> >> But, despite what Tom says below, I would not automatically assume you >> need more. How much RAM you need for good performance is *not* a >> one-size-fits-all situation. You get good performance if the amount of >> RAM you have keeps you from using the page file significantly, and >> that depends on what apps you run. Most people running a typical range >> of business applications under XP find that somewhere around 512MB >> works well, others need more. Almost anyone will see poor performance >> with less than 256MB. Some people, particularly those doing things >> like editing large photographic images, can see a performance boost by >> adding even more than 512MB--sometimes much more. >> >> If you are currently using the page file significantly, more memory >> will decrease or eliminate that usage, and improve your performance. >> If you are not using the page file significantly, more memory will do >> nothing for you. Go to >> http://billsway.com/notes%5Fpublic/winxp%5Ftweaks/ and download >> WinXP-2K_Pagefile.zip and monitor your page file usage. That should >> give you a good idea of whether more memory can help, and if so, how >> much more. >> >> >> >> > "Tom Willett" wrote: >> > >> > > You just barely have enough RAM to use Windows, let alone any other >> > > programs at the same time. >> > > >> > > "tmb867" <tmb867(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> > > news:D98FD07D-9023-460A-8680-7FAED98D1BA8(a)microsoft.com... >> > > :I have a Pent lll, Win XP SP3, Internet explorer 8, Avira Antivirus, >> > > 733 >> > > Mhz >> > > : 256 mb of Ram and Virtual Memory is set for total paging file for >> > > all >> > > drive >> > > : is 428. The question is am I maxed out on memory or what can I >> > > check. I >> > > just >> > > : reformated this drive and it is 80 gig disc drive that is a quarter >> > > full >> > > : since I just reformated. System is slow and trying to fix that. >> > > >> > > >> > > . >> > > >> >> -- >> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003 >> Please Reply to the Newsgroup >> . >>
From: Ken Blake, MVP on 2 Mar 2010 15:52 On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 17:41:02 -0800, tmb867 <tmb867(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > I changed it to No Paging File, is that ok. No, it's not OK. It's a very poor thing to do. It can never help you and it will often hurt you. The only way to reduce page file use in a way that can help is to add more RAM. My point was that adding more RAM to reduce page file use is only valuable if there is significant page file use. > "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote: > > > On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 13:16:01 -0800, tmb867 > > <tmb867(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > > > > i guess my question is can I add more? Or how do I figure out if I CAN add > > > more? > > > > > > For the answer to that question, you have to check the specs for your > > motherboard. > > > > But, despite what Tom says below, I would not automatically assume you > > need more. How much RAM you need for good performance is *not* a > > one-size-fits-all situation. You get good performance if the amount of > > RAM you have keeps you from using the page file significantly, and > > that depends on what apps you run. Most people running a typical range > > of business applications under XP find that somewhere around 512MB > > works well, others need more. Almost anyone will see poor performance > > with less than 256MB. Some people, particularly those doing things > > like editing large photographic images, can see a performance boost by > > adding even more than 512MB--sometimes much more. > > > > If you are currently using the page file significantly, more memory > > will decrease or eliminate that usage, and improve your performance. > > If you are not using the page file significantly, more memory will do > > nothing for you. Go to > > http://billsway.com/notes%5Fpublic/winxp%5Ftweaks/ and download > > WinXP-2K_Pagefile.zip and monitor your page file usage. That should > > give you a good idea of whether more memory can help, and if so, how > > much more. > > > > > > > > > "Tom Willett" wrote: > > > > > > > You just barely have enough RAM to use Windows, let alone any other > > > > programs at the same time. > > > > > > > > "tmb867" <tmb867(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > > news:D98FD07D-9023-460A-8680-7FAED98D1BA8(a)microsoft.com... > > > > :I have a Pent lll, Win XP SP3, Internet explorer 8, Avira Antivirus, 733 > > > > Mhz > > > > : 256 mb of Ram and Virtual Memory is set for total paging file for all > > > > drive > > > > : is 428. The question is am I maxed out on memory or what can I check. I > > > > just > > > > : reformated this drive and it is 80 gig disc drive that is a quarter full > > > > : since I just reformated. System is slow and trying to fix that. > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > -- > > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003 > > Please Reply to the Newsgroup > > . > > -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003 Please Reply to the Newsgroup
From: Daave on 4 Mar 2010 11:03 tmb867 wrote: > I have a Pent lll, Win XP SP3, Internet explorer 8, Avira Antivirus, > 733 Mhz 256 mb of Ram and Virtual Memory is set for total paging file > for all drive is 428. The question is am I maxed out on memory or > what can I check. I just reformated this drive and it is 80 gig disc > drive that is a quarter full since I just reformated. System is slow > and trying to fix that. That's an older PC, for sure! You neglected to tell us the make and model of the PC (and/or motherboard). With that information, we can then determine the maximum amount of RAM your PC can handle. Or you can just enter that information here: http://www.crucial.com/ Although some people can have a speedy XP system with as little as 256MB RAM, chances are you would need to add more physical memory (RAM) in order that you don't over-rely on your pagefile (excessive pagefile activity most definitely impedes performance). The bad news is you have another bottleneck: the speed of your processor (733 MHz). The fact of the matter is your PC's performance will never be that great. Is it worth it to you to buy more RAM and see some improvement or buy a new PC (or it can even be a used one that is five years old) and see dramatic improvement. You would be surprised how much performance two hundred dollars can buy!
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