From: knews4u2chew on
On Feb 26, 10:57 am, pv+use...(a)pobox.com (PV) wrote:
> knews4u2c...(a)yahoo.com writes:
> >He claims that experimenters have meters that are being fooled.
> >He MUST PROVE THAT THE WAVE FORM IN THE RC CIRCUIT FOOLS METERS.
>
> So I take it you don't know what "rms" means in this context? *
> --
> * PV    Something like a bagger.

Does this experimenter?

http://www.youtube.com/user/sirHOAX?blend=2&ob=1#p/u/21/nTEyu6aNXmA
http://www.youtube.com/user/sirHOAX?blend=2&ob=1#p/u/19/9P_RJyCP3Eo
http://www.youtube.com/user/sirHOAX?blend=2&ob=1#p/u/22/qLAzrIO8zEA
http://www.youtube.com/user/sirHOAX?blend=2&ob=1#p/u/22/qLAzrIO8zEA
From: knews4u2chew on
On Feb 25, 7:37 am, Don Lancaster <d...(a)tinaja.com> wrote:
> knews4u2c...(a)yahoo.com wrote:
> > Dielectric Breakdown of H2O Creating HHO Constituent Gasses
>
> > It doesn't get any more simple.
>
> Correct.
> Specifically...
>
Subject: Re: Stanley Meyer's Court Case
From: "Ted Zettergren" <ted.zettergren(a)swipnet.se>
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 15:59:28 +0100

By the way. If you like to do some experiment, try this.

AT FIRST:

You must know the difference between a chemical reaction and a
nuclear reaction. A lot of people don't understand that but they like
to argue a lot in every NG on Internet.

In a chemical reaction you need a lot of current and some salt for
making the water conductive.

In a nuclear reaction you don't need any current at all, only high
voltage. How much current you need in a real application depends
on how clean your water is. As cleaner as better.

Stanley Meyers method's have NOTHING to do with chemical
reactions.

HOW TO?

As a guide, you need US Patent 4,936,961 ref. figure 1 to 3F.

If you read something about magical frequencyis, forget that.
It works fine with 10KHz or something else if you preferred.
Use 50% duty cycle. BUT! the frequency will be doubled in the
step up circuit and that's the frequency the Water-Cell will work
with. The components must resist at least 2000V.

The Water-Cell is very simple. Take a lot of stainless steel tubes
with the inner diameter of the bigger tube 3mm bigger than the outer
diameter of the inner tube. From now you must look at this
Water-Cell as a capacitor with water as dilectricum.

The Water-Cell and the INDUCTOR will resonate at a specific
frequency. It's a normal RC-circuit.

Now the most important: The Water-Cell/Inductor frequency and
the doubled frequency from the generator must be exactly the
same. A special condition exists in a L/C Circuit, when it is
energized at a frequency at which the inductive reactance is equal
to the capacitive reactance, XL = XC.

Adjust the voltage peak level to reach a maximum hydrogen/oxygen
producing with a minimum of current using. If you earlier make
hydrogen with the electrolysis method with a lot of current,
this experiment will really surprise you.

For even less current you can make some experiment with a
centertapped puls-transformer.

Have a nice trip to Ohio!

Ted!

> --
> Many thanks,
>
> Don Lancaster                          

You are welcome.
No excuses now Donny.
Do your homework.
Build a "Donny" circuit.
You were sent a Lawton spec drawing.
Show how the circuit is fooling meters.


From: Don Lancaster on
PV wrote:
> knews4u2chew(a)yahoo.com writes:
>> He claims that experimenters have meters that are being fooled.
>> He MUST PROVE THAT THE WAVE FORM IN THE RC CIRCUIT FOOLS METERS.
> So I take it you don't know what "rms" means in this context? *

Which, of course, I did long ago and many times.
And, of course, is thoroughly covered in any intro EE course.

See <http://www.tinaja.com/glib/muse112.pdf> and
<http://www.tinaja.com/glib/muse113.pdf> for openers.


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Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552
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From: PV on
knews4u2chew(a)yahoo.com writes:
>> >He claims that experimenters have meters that are being fooled.
>> >He MUST PROVE THAT THE WAVE FORM IN THE RC CIRCUIT FOOLS METERS.
>>
>> So I take it you don't know what "rms" means in this context? *
>> --
>Does this experimenter?

So that's a no, huh? *
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* PV Something like badgers, something like lizards, and something
like corkscrews.