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From: j on 30 Jan 2010 09:06
John McGhie <john(a)mcghie.name> wrote:

> This is an issue with "Bootable clones" that affects a few bits of software,
> Microsoft Office is one of them.
>
> The issue is that you have copied the PREFERENCES to the backup. The Prefs
> are specific to a particular computer and disk: they link all the bits
> together.
>
> You need to delete the Prefs from the clone, then launch the office
> applications. They will then write a new set of Prefs dedicated to the disk
> they are now on.
>
> After that, it will be fine.

No luck with that. I deleted all prefs in /user/library/preferences that
began with com.microsoft. After that didn't work I tried deleting the
Microsoft folder (in the same location). Again, one bounce, then
disappears.

Am I looking in the wrong place?
From: j on 30 Jan 2010 09:11
aRKay <arkay(a)nospam.qsl.net> wrote:
>
> I am not sure who has the issue; however, it sounds like the software
> that created the clone did you no favors. I have been able to run
> Office 2008 from a backup hard drive that was cloned using SuperDuper.
>
> You did not define what you used to create the clone. I suspect that
> is your problem.


I used SilverKeeper. I do have a trial copy of SuperDuper so maybe I'll
give that a go.

However, I can't see what SuperDuper could do differently to
SilverKeeper that would help this situation. Maybe something to do with
permissions?

From: Erik Richard Sørensen on 30 Jan 2010 10:16

John McGhie wrote:
> This is an issue with "Bootable clones" that affects a few bits of software,
> Microsoft Office is one of them.
>
> The issue is that you have copied the PREFERENCES to the backup. The Prefs
> are specific to a particular computer and disk: they link all the bits
> together.

Yes, so it is on a Win-based PC, but not on a Mac - MS software doesnot
lock to hardware on a Mac.... I've copied the MSO2008 from my MacPro to
the one MDD, because I was too lazy to find the CD. Copied both the
application folder from 'Applications' and the folders from 'Documents',
'Application Support' and 'Preferences'. - Word launched nicely with all
my settings kept. - This was the ver. 12.2.0. But with the 12.2.3 it
doesn't work.

> You need to delete the Prefs from the clone, then launch the office
> applications. They will then write a new set of Prefs dedicated to the disk
> they are now on.
>
> After that, it will be fine.

It should be, but this doen'st always work out that way. The prefs files
are always the first I delete, when aN App begins to behave in that way,
but it doesnot work with the ver. 12.2.3...

Cheers, Erik Richard.

> "j" <j1(a)macunlimited.net> wrote:
>> I've made a bootable backup clone of my entire hard drive onto an
>> external firewire Lacie drive using SilverKeeper.
>>
>> When booting from the external drive, everything seems to work fine,
>> except for Microsoft Office. On launch, Word bounces once in the dock
>> then disappears. Same for Excel (I haven't tried the others).
>>
>> Is this some sort of anti-piracy measure, or have I screwed up my backup
>> in some way?
>>
>> The whole point of having a bootable backup clone is that I could carry
>> on working after a hard drive failure. But this throws a spanner in the
>> works. Everything else seems to work as normal.
>>
>> Any suggestions?

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From: J.J. O'Shea on 30 Jan 2010 10:56
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:43:26 -0500, j wrote
(in article <1jd3ifa.jeem38119zu64N%j1(a)macunlimited.net>):

> I've made a bootable backup clone of my entire hard drive onto an
> external firewire Lacie drive using SilverKeeper.

Depending on which version of SilverKeeper, that may have been a Bad
Idea(tm). Some versions of SK don't play well with clones. They're excellent
basic backup systems, but the cloning part is broken.

>
> When booting from the external drive, everything seems to work fine,
> except for Microsoft Office. On launch, Word bounces once in the dock
> then disappears. Same for Excel (I haven't tried the others).

Something in the Microsoft Office folder didn't get copied properly. Delete
the entire folder and replace with the folder from the original system. If
that's not available, delete the entire folder and reinstall Office and then
update to the latest version. This will take some time, as apparently
Microsoft has not heard of the concept of 'combo updaters', and you will have
to apply each update, one at a time, in the correct order.

>
> Is this some sort of anti-piracy measure, or have I screwed up my backup
> in some way?

If you're going to do a straight-up incremental backup, SK is good, though
Time Machine is better. If you're going to do a clone, use Carbon Copy Cloner
or SuperDuper!. SD! is easier to use, CCC is more powerful.

>
> The whole point of having a bootable backup clone is that I could carry
> on working after a hard drive failure. But this throws a spanner in the
> works. Everything else seems to work as normal.
>
> Any suggestions?



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From: aRKay on 30 Jan 2010 10:58
In article <1jd4xvv.g9vhg1dmwvggN%j1(a)macunlimited.net>,
j1(a)macunlimited.net (j) wrote:

> aRKay <arkay(a)nospam.qsl.net> wrote:
> >
> > I am not sure who has the issue; however, it sounds like the software
> > that created the clone did you no favors. I have been able to run
> > Office 2008 from a backup hard drive that was cloned using SuperDuper.
> >
> > You did not define what you used to create the clone. I suspect that
> > is your problem.
>
>
> I used SilverKeeper. I do have a trial copy of SuperDuper so maybe I'll
> give that a go.
>
> However, I can't see what SuperDuper could do differently to
> SilverKeeper that would help this situation. Maybe something to do with
> permissions?

I have never heard of SilverKeeper and have no experience. I hope
you are talking about Mac stuff and not mixing PC and Mac stuff. If so
God cannot help you.
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