From: Joel Koltner on 30 Mar 2010 13:22 --> http://www.rfglobalnet.com/article.mvc/Mini-Generators-Could-Power-Wireless-Sensors-0001?user=1925643&source=nl:27130 Quote: "The researchers have built three prototypes and a fourth is forthcoming. In two of the generators, the energy conversion is performed through electromagnetic induction, in which a coil is subjected to a varying magnetic field. This is a process similar to how large-scale generators in big power plants operate. " "The university is pursuing patent protection for the intellectual property." Um hmm. I wonder if the dollar-store "shake lights" could be used as prior art?
From: J.A. Legris on 30 Mar 2010 14:57 On Mar 30, 1:22 pm, "Joel Koltner" <zapwireDASHgro...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > -->http://www.rfglobalnet.com/article.mvc/Mini-Generators-Could-Power-Wi.... > > Quote: > > "The researchers have built three prototypes and a fourth is forthcoming. In > two of the generators, the energy conversion is performed through > electromagnetic induction, in which a coil is subjected to a varying magnetic > field. This is a process similar to how large-scale generators in big power > plants operate. " > > "The university is pursuing patent protection for the intellectual property." > > Um hmm. > > I wonder if the dollar-store "shake lights" could be used as prior art? You've missed the point - these are self-contained devices that produce reliable, although small, amounts of power from ambient vibrations. Sounds novel to me. -- Joe
From: Joel Koltner on 30 Mar 2010 16:06 "J.A. Legris" <jalegris(a)sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:3d3b76f7-e0cd-441a-9b71-c5731b773c6d(a)v8g2000vbh.googlegroups.com... >You've missed the point - these are self-contained devices that >produce reliable, although small, amounts of power from ambient >vibrations. Sounds novel to me. Self-winding watches have been around forever. At least to me the idea of harnessing sound random movement and converting it to electricity (rather than tightening up a spring) is an obvious extension. People have been working on such "micropower harvesters" for decades now...
From: krw on 30 Mar 2010 19:09 On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 13:06:44 -0700, "Joel Koltner" <zapwireDASHgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >"J.A. Legris" <jalegris(a)sympatico.ca> wrote in message >news:3d3b76f7-e0cd-441a-9b71-c5731b773c6d(a)v8g2000vbh.googlegroups.com... >>You've missed the point - these are self-contained devices that >>produce reliable, although small, amounts of power from ambient >>vibrations. Sounds novel to me. > >Self-winding watches have been around forever. >At least to me the idea of harnessing sound random movement and converting it >to electricity (rather than tightening up a spring) is an obvious extension. >People have been working on such "micropower harvesters" for decades now... You make the same mistake most do when considering the worth(lessness) of patents. You don't have the claims. Without the claims this is nothing more than a useless newsblurb to fill a just as useless trade rag.
From: Don Klipstein on 30 Mar 2010 20:36
On Mar 30, 1:22�pm, "Joel Koltner" <zapwireDASHgro...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >http://www.rfglobalnet.com/article.mvc/Mini-Generators-Could-Power-Wi.. (I hope I got this right) > Quote: > > "The researchers have built three prototypes and a fourth is > forthcoming. In two of the generators, the energy conversion is > performed through electromagnetic induction, in which a coil is > subjected to a varying magnetic field. This is a process similar > to how large-scale generators in big power plants operate. " > > "The university is pursuing patent protection for the intellectual >property." > > Um hmm. > > I wonder if the dollar-store "shake lights" could be used as prior art? How about the fact that all of the dollar store "shake lights" that I ever bought were "fake shake lights"? In my experience actually opening up 3 of these of 2 different brands, the movable slug was not magnetized, the leads of the coil were shorted together, and there was a battery consisting of (I forget which already) one or two lithium coin cells of some CR???? type. Maybe the prior art needs to be a non-dollar-store "shake light". - Don Klipstein (don(a)misty.com) |