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From: Androcles on 4 Apr 2010 11:25 "Meteorologist" <dchristainsen(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:e1e79dc4-d5fd-4013-b0ba-b912e11cf2e1(a)z9g2000vbm.googlegroups.com... On Apr 4, 1:03 am, richp <travelingman95...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >... > The world is so large that any idiot can find at least 4 crackpots > for any bunk. Do you know any climate science? David Christainsen ============================================ Do you know any science?
From: Meteorologist on 5 Apr 2010 09:20 On Apr 5, 1:26 am, Unum <non...(a)yourbusiness.com> wrote: > On 4/5/2010 12:11 AM, Doug Weller wrote: > > > > > > > On Sun, 4 Apr 2010 08:22:28 -0700 (PDT), in uk.sci.weather, Meteorologist > > wrote: > > >> On Apr 4, 1:03 am, richp<travelingman95...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>> ... > >>> The world is so large that any idiot can find at least 4 crackpots > >>> for any bunk. > > >> Do you know any climate science? > > >> David Christainsen > > > I realise that this will lead to your making more personal attacks on me, > > but you have claimed elsewhere in the last few days to be a practicing > > meteorologist. > > You may have audited a course on meteorology decades ago at MIT, you may > > have been a systems integrator, you may know lots about statistics, but > > you have never shown any evidence that you have ever passed even one > > course on meteorology. It's obviously a hobby of yours but some people > > might think from your statements and username that you are more than a > > hobbyist but are actually working as a meteorologist. > > > Doug Weller > > Don't take him seriously. I don't take you seriously. > The guy is some kind of damaged nutjob, Libel here from Unum. > has > spammed many newsgroups. Unum is lying here. > He's not a "practicing" anything. His only > objective is to elicit your response. Therefore affirms his existence. Purest bunk from Unun. > Don't feed the troll. Unun here is the troll; don't feed Unun... David Christainsen
From: Meteorologist on 5 Apr 2010 11:07 On Apr 5, 10:08 am, Doug Weller <dwel...(a)ramtops.removethis.co.uk> wrote: > On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 00:26:54 -0500, in uk.sci.weather, Unum wrote: > >On 4/5/2010 12:11 AM, Doug Weller wrote: > >> On Sun, 4 Apr 2010 08:22:28 -0700 (PDT), in uk.sci.weather, Meteorologist > >> wrote: > > >>> On Apr 4, 1:03 am, richp<travelingman95...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> ... > >>>> The world is so large that any idiot can find at least 4 crackpots > >>>> for any bunk. > > >>> Do you know any climate science? > > >>> David Christainsen > > >> I realise that this will lead to your making more personal attacks on me, > >> but you have claimed elsewhere in the last few days to be a practicing > >> meteorologist. > >> You may have audited a course on meteorology decades ago at MIT, you may > >> have been a systems integrator, you may know lots about statistics, but > >> you have never shown any evidence that you have ever passed even one > >> course on meteorology. It's obviously a hobby of yours but some people > >> might think from your statements and username that you are more than a > >> hobbyist but are actually working as a meteorologist. > > >> Doug Weller > > >Don't take him seriously. The guy is some kind of damaged nutjob, has > >spammed many newsgroups. He's not a "practicing" anything. His only > >objective is to elicit your response. Therefore affirms his existence. > > >Don't feed the troll. > > You're probably right, in fact I rarely get involved with any thread he's > in. Why are you here now if not to troll and twit? > Most of the editors who I've seen respond to him over the last few > years in quite a few newsgroups have said more or less the same thing > about him as you've said above. Bogus information unethically handed out by Doug Weller. > Doug > -- > Doug Weller -- Doug, Here you seem oblivious to the Thread subject line. Can't you stay on-topic? So, if you want to make a useful usenet contribution to this thread topic in the future, please address the issue of whether cosmic rays are a stronger climate forcer than greenhouse gases. So, Rusov's position on the matter is particularly interesting - Rusov does not agree with the IPCCs view that man is to blame for the recent warming. Do cosmic rays cause climate change? http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/33645 "The team constructed a model of the Earths climate in which the only significant inputs were variations in the Suns power output and changes to the galactic cosmic ray flux (arXiv: 803.2765 ). They found that the models predicted evolution of Earths surface temperature over the last 700,000 years agrees well with proxy temperature data taken from Antarctic ice cores (arXiv: 0803.2766 ). Rusov agrees that Svensmarks cosmic ray ionization mechanism cannot fully account for the observed correlation between cosmic ray flux and cloud cover, as Sloan and Wolfendale have demonstrated. But he believes that a small but direct link between cosmic rays and clouds could itself trigger a mechanism which causes further, and greater, changes in cloud cover." David Christainsen
From: Ouroboros Rex on 5 Apr 2010 17:07 On 4/3/2010 7:15 PM, Meteorologist wrote: > 27-day variation in cloud amount in the > Western Pacific warm pool region � > Y Takahashi, Y Okazaki, M Sato, H � > - Atmos. Chem. �, 2010 > http://www.atmos-chem-phys.org/10/1577/2010/acp-10-1577-2010.pdf > > Galactic cosmic rays-clouds effect and > bifurcation model of the Earth global > climate. Part 1. Theory > VD Rusov, AV Glushkov, VN Vaschenko, OT � > - Journal of Atmospheric �, 2010 - Elsevier > http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6VHB-4Y4PVT5-2&_user=10&_coverDate=04%2F30%2F2010&_rdoc=1&_fmt=high&_orig=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_searchStrId=1280121845&_rerunOrigin=scholar.google&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=0ab52c67087d611aa2564193626988fa > > Cosmic Rays and The Climate > T. Sloan > 2008 > http://74.125.155.132/scholar?q=cache:HE_HF4MHaM0J:scholar.google.com/+Svensmark+Kirkby+Rusov&hl=en&as_sdt=40000000&as_ylo=2008 > > "Abstract�A number of papers and posters were presented atthe ECRS on > the subject of the relationship between cosmic rays(CR) and both the > climate and the weather. I was asked by the > organisers to attempt to summarise them." > > Carbon Dioxide Production Responsibility > on the Basis of comparing in Situ � > SC Mavrodiev, L Pekevski, B Vachev, B � > - Arxiv preprint arXiv: �, 2008 > http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0810/0810.0125.pdf > > ----- > > BTW svensmark kirkby rusov and shaviv are > the Big 4 for Google Scholar Search on this > topic. And still have nothing proving your sdtatement. lol
From: Meteorologist on 5 Apr 2010 17:43
On Apr 5, 5:07 pm, Ouroboros Rex <i...(a)casual.com> wrote: > On 4/3/2010 7:15 PM, Meteorologist wrote: > > > > > > > 27-day variation in cloud amount in the > > Western Pacific warm pool region > > Y Takahashi, Y Okazaki, M Sato, H > > - Atmos. Chem. , 2010 > >http://www.atmos-chem-phys.org/10/1577/2010/acp-10-1577-2010.pdf > > > Galactic cosmic rays-clouds effect and > > bifurcation model of the Earth global > > climate. Part 1. Theory > > VD Rusov, AV Glushkov, VN Vaschenko, OT > > - Journal of Atmospheric , 2010 - Elsevier > >http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6VHB-4Y4PVT... > > > Cosmic Rays and The Climate > > T. Sloan > > 2008 > >http://74.125.155.132/scholar?q=cache:HE_HF4MHaM0J:scholar.google.com.... > > > "AbstractA number of papers and posters were presented atthe ECRS on > > the subject of the relationship between cosmic rays(CR) and both the > > climate and the weather. I was asked by the > > organisers to attempt to summarise them." > > > Carbon Dioxide Production Responsibility > > on the Basis of comparing in Situ > > SC Mavrodiev, L Pekevski, B Vachev, B > > - Arxiv preprint arXiv: , 2008 > >http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0810/0810.0125.pdf > > > ----- > > > BTW svensmark kirkby rusov and shaviv are > > the Big 4 for Google Scholar Search on this > > topic. > > And still have nothing proving your sdtatement. lol- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Earth to Ouroboros Rex: Alternative just for you - Into Google Scholar for 2010 plug "cosmic rays" and "climate" for bulk of the recent literature. <non-LOL> David Christainsen |