From: jaster on
On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:56:17 -0700, pdcjlw1 thoughtfully wrote:


> jaster wrote:
>> On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:35:49 -0700, pdcjlw1 thoughtfully wrote:
>>
>> > I've got an Intel D945GNT motherboard and a Pentium D 2.8 Ghz
>> > processor. I've also got two sticks of DDR2 memory at 533 MHZ. I am
>> > not able to get any video or even any post beeps out of the
>> > motherboard. I've even bought a motherboard diagnositc board to try
>> > and read any post codes, however I don't get any. I do see the cpu
>> > fan twitch when I turn on the power and the 3.3v light blinks, but
>> > that's it. I don't have any drives attached to the motherboard. I've
>> > replaced the motherboard, cpu and memory. I've even tried to boot
>> > without memory just to see if I could get any type of post code.
>> >
>> > I've tired it with the motherboard mounted in the case and out of the
>> > case. I've even tried different cases.
>> >
>> > Anybody got any ideas?
>>
>> As the other responder said.
>>
>> OTH, if you've tried 2 motherboards and with not luck then you have to
>> look at your PSU and connections. Sometimes there's no boot if memory,
>> video card or wiring isn't properly connected. I take schematics on
>> the m/b over the scematics in the manual if the 2 differ. Also, make
>> sure the proper voltage is switched on the psu.
>>
>> Just do a bare minimum, video, 1 stick memory, power, power on
>> connector and motherboard speaker. I think it's rare a cpu is the
>> cause of such failures.
>
>
> I have perfomed futher tests. I cannot take out the video or sound since
> it is on the motherboard. I have tested with just one memory module with
> no difference. I have no drives hooked up and I have tried each memory
> stick and even tried it with no memory. I have checked the cpu and
> re-seated it. I still get no boot. I do get the led to light on the
> motherboard that shows it has power, but that is it. I have also taken
> the motherboard out of the case and put it on a cardboard to make sure I
> was not shorting out in the case. Still no boot. No beep codes. No post
> codes on my post diag board.
>
> Any other ideas?

Well that eliminates sound and video issues. You only have the power-on
button connected, no usb, etc?

All power cables are connected to the motherboard? 2x12 and 2x2
connectors?

Is there a cmos jumper on the motherboard maybe it's set to factory ship
vs. normal?

What about your psu? Can you try the motherboard with a different psu?
LEDs require very, very little voltage to light. You need fans spining or
something to make sure everything is working.

Hard to image something wrong with motherboard when you have an Intel cpu
and 2 Intel motherboards. Intel makes some tough boards and cpus. No
offense but I have to go with a problem in your assembly skill, your
psu or memory first.

Try again then trying talking to Intel Help link. IIRC, they're pretty
good or send an email through their website. The website will probably
send stock email reply but replying to that email might get you more help.
And Intel honors it's guarantee, unless someone has clearly mangled the
cpu or motherboard.

From: jaster on
On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 04:57:34 +0000, jaster thoughtfully wrote:

> On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:56:17 -0700, pdcjlw1 thoughtfully wrote:
>
>
>> jaster wrote:
>>> On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:35:49 -0700, pdcjlw1 thoughtfully wrote:
>>>
>>> > I've got an Intel D945GNT motherboard and a Pentium D 2.8 Ghz
>>> > processor. I've also got two sticks of DDR2 memory at 533 MHZ. I am
>>> > not able to get any video or even any post beeps out of the
>>> > motherboard. I've even bought a motherboard diagnositc board to try
>>> > and read any post codes, however I don't get any. I do see the cpu
>>> > fan twitch when I turn on the power and the 3.3v light blinks, but
>>> > that's it. I don't have any drives attached to the motherboard. I've
>>> > replaced the motherboard, cpu and memory. I've even tried to boot
>>> > without memory just to see if I could get any type of post code.
>>> >
>>> > I've tired it with the motherboard mounted in the case and out of the
>>> > case. I've even tried different cases.
>>> >
>>> > Anybody got any ideas?
>>>
>>> As the other responder said.
>>>
>>> OTH, if you've tried 2 motherboards and with not luck then you have to
>>> look at your PSU and connections. Sometimes there's no boot if memory,
>>> video card or wiring isn't properly connected. I take schematics on
>>> the m/b over the scematics in the manual if the 2 differ. Also, make
>>> sure the proper voltage is switched on the psu.
>>>
>>> Just do a bare minimum, video, 1 stick memory, power, power on
>>> connector and motherboard speaker. I think it's rare a cpu is the
>>> cause of such failures.
>>
>>
>> I have perfomed futher tests. I cannot take out the video or sound since
>> it is on the motherboard. I have tested with just one memory module with
>> no difference. I have no drives hooked up and I have tried each memory
>> stick and even tried it with no memory. I have checked the cpu and
>> re-seated it. I still get no boot. I do get the led to light on the
>> motherboard that shows it has power, but that is it. I have also taken
>> the motherboard out of the case and put it on a cardboard to make sure I
>> was not shorting out in the case. Still no boot. No beep codes. No post
>> codes on my post diag board.
>>
>> Any other ideas?
>
> Well that eliminates sound and video issues. You only have the power-on
> button connected, no usb, etc?
>
> All power cables are connected to the motherboard? 2x12 and 2x2
> connectors?
>
> Is there a cmos jumper on the motherboard maybe it's set to factory ship
> vs. normal?
>
> What about your psu? Can you try the motherboard with a different psu?
> LEDs require very, very little voltage to light. You need fans spining or
> something to make sure everything is working.
>
> Hard to image something wrong with motherboard when you have an Intel cpu
> and 2 Intel motherboards. Intel makes some tough boards and cpus. No
> offense but I have to go with a problem in your assembly skill, your psu
> or memory first.
>
> Try again then trying talking to Intel Help link. IIRC, they're pretty
> good or send an email through their website. The website will probably
> send stock email reply but replying to that email might get you more help.
> And Intel honors it's guarantee, unless someone has clearly mangled the
> cpu or motherboard.


Forgot website
http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/CS-020836.htm


From: pdcjlw1 on

Paul wrote:
> pdcjlw1(a)gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > I've got an Intel D945GNT motherboard and a Pentium D 2.8 Ghz
> > processor. I've also got two sticks of DDR2 memory at 533 MHZ. I am
> > not able to get any video or even any post beeps out of the
> > motherboard. I've even bought a motherboard diagnositc board to try and
> > read any post codes, however I don't get any. I do see the cpu fan
> > twitch when I turn on the power and the 3.3v light blinks, but that's
> > it. I don't have any drives attached to the motherboard. I've replaced
> > the motherboard, cpu and memory. I've even tried to boot without memory
> > just to see if I could get any type of post code.
> >
> > I've tired it with the motherboard mounted in the case and out of the
> > case. I've even tried different cases.
> >
> > Anybody got any ideas?
>
> The +5 V standby power indicator LED (CR3J1) should remain
> lit steady. It should not blink. If it blinks or goes off,
> it means +5VSB is overloaded on the PSU, or the PSU has
> protected itself by switching off everything. Remove the
> motherboard from the computer case and assemble a minimum
> system on your tabletop (with a cardboard covered phone
> book underneath the motherboard for support). Removing
> the motherboard from the case, ensures that no standoffs
> are touching the motherboard, where they are not supposed
> to.
>
> Using CPU+heatsink+fan, motherboard, PSU, computer case
> speaker plugged to the PANEL header, computer case power
> switch plugged to the PANEL header, while it all is
> sitting on a piece of cardboard, you should be able to
> get whatever error beep pattern an Intel board uses.
> Your port 80 POST diagnostic card should display
> codes other than 0x00 or 0xFF hex, if all is well.
> If the POST card is showing some activity, or you
> get some beep codes, you can switch off and add
> more hardware to the system, until you get really bad
> symptoms again. Add RAM, video card, keyboard+mouse,
> and finally a boot drive, in that order, and observe
> the symptoms after each test case.
>
> HTH,
> Paul

I've found the light on the motherboard you were talking about. It does
stay on. there is a different light on the POST diag board that blinks
on for a second. I've tried several different power supplies and none
make any difference. I've tried it with just one stick of ram and
swithed which ram stick that's in. I've got no drives plugged in and
the sound and video are on the motherboard. I've even cleard the CMOS
and tried to reboot then. I still get nothing.

Any other ideas?

From: Paul on


pdcjlw1(a)gmail.com wrote:
>
> Paul wrote:
> > pdcjlw1(a)gmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > I've got an Intel D945GNT motherboard and a Pentium D 2.8 Ghz
> > > processor. I've also got two sticks of DDR2 memory at 533 MHZ. I am
> > > not able to get any video or even any post beeps out of the
> > > motherboard. I've even bought a motherboard diagnositc board to try and
> > > read any post codes, however I don't get any. I do see the cpu fan
> > > twitch when I turn on the power and the 3.3v light blinks, but that's
> > > it. I don't have any drives attached to the motherboard. I've replaced
> > > the motherboard, cpu and memory. I've even tried to boot without memory
> > > just to see if I could get any type of post code.
> > >
> > > I've tired it with the motherboard mounted in the case and out of the
> > > case. I've even tried different cases.
> > >
> > > Anybody got any ideas?
> >
> > The +5 V standby power indicator LED (CR3J1) should remain
> > lit steady. It should not blink. If it blinks or goes off,
> > it means +5VSB is overloaded on the PSU, or the PSU has
> > protected itself by switching off everything. Remove the
> > motherboard from the computer case and assemble a minimum
> > system on your tabletop (with a cardboard covered phone
> > book underneath the motherboard for support). Removing
> > the motherboard from the case, ensures that no standoffs
> > are touching the motherboard, where they are not supposed
> > to.
> >
> > Using CPU+heatsink+fan, motherboard, PSU, computer case
> > speaker plugged to the PANEL header, computer case power
> > switch plugged to the PANEL header, while it all is
> > sitting on a piece of cardboard, you should be able to
> > get whatever error beep pattern an Intel board uses.
> > Your port 80 POST diagnostic card should display
> > codes other than 0x00 or 0xFF hex, if all is well.
> > If the POST card is showing some activity, or you
> > get some beep codes, you can switch off and add
> > more hardware to the system, until you get really bad
> > symptoms again. Add RAM, video card, keyboard+mouse,
> > and finally a boot drive, in that order, and observe
> > the symptoms after each test case.
> >
> > HTH,
> > Paul
>
> I've found the light on the motherboard you were talking about. It does
> stay on. there is a different light on the POST diag board that blinks
> on for a second. I've tried several different power supplies and none
> make any difference. I've tried it with just one stick of ram and
> swithed which ram stick that's in. I've got no drives plugged in and
> the sound and video are on the motherboard. I've even cleard the CMOS
> and tried to reboot then. I still get nothing.
>
> Any other ideas?

At this point, the odds are it is a bad motherboard.
You've tried several power supplies, and all you can
manage is a twitch. I'd try another motherboard.

Paul
From: Rod Speed on
Paul <nospam(a)needed.com> wrote
> pdcjlw1(a)gmail.com wrote
>> Paul wrote
>>> pdcjlw1(a)gmail.com wrote

>>>> I've got an Intel D945GNT motherboard and a Pentium D 2.8 Ghz
>>>> processor. I've also got two sticks of DDR2 memory at 533 MHZ.
>>>> I am not able to get any video or even any post beeps out of the
>>>> motherboard. I've even bought a motherboard diagnositc board to
>>>> try and read any post codes, however I don't get any. I do see the
>>>> cpu fan twitch when I turn on the power and the 3.3v light blinks,
>>>> but that's it. I don't have any drives attached to the motherboard.
>>>> I've replaced the motherboard, cpu and memory. I've even tried to
>>>> boot without memory just to see if I could get any type of post code.

>>>> I've tired it with the motherboard mounted in the case
>>>> and out of the case. I've even tried different cases.

>>>> Anybody got any ideas?

>>> The +5 V standby power indicator LED (CR3J1) should
>>> remain lit steady. It should not blink. If it blinks or goes off,
>>> it means +5VSB is overloaded on the PSU, or the PSU has
>>> protected itself by switching off everything. Remove the
>>> motherboard from the computer case and assemble a minimum
>>> system on your tabletop (with a cardboard covered phone
>>> book underneath the motherboard for support). Removing
>>> the motherboard from the case, ensures that no standoffs
>>> are touching the motherboard, where they are not supposed to.

>>> Using CPU+heatsink+fan, motherboard, PSU, computer case
>>> speaker plugged to the PANEL header, computer case power
>>> switch plugged to the PANEL header, while it all is
>>> sitting on a piece of cardboard, you should be able to
>>> get whatever error beep pattern an Intel board uses.
>>> Your port 80 POST diagnostic card should display
>>> codes other than 0x00 or 0xFF hex, if all is well.
>>> If the POST card is showing some activity, or you
>>> get some beep codes, you can switch off and add
>>> more hardware to the system, until you get really bad
>>> symptoms again. Add RAM, video card, keyboard+mouse,
>>> and finally a boot drive, in that order, and observe
>>> the symptoms after each test case.

>> I've found the light on the motherboard you were talking about.
>> It does stay on. there is a different light on the POST diag board
>> that blinks on for a second. I've tried several different power
>> supplies and none make any difference. I've tried it with just one
>> stick of ram and swithed which ram stick that's in. I've got no drives
>> plugged in and the sound and video are on the motherboard. I've
>> even cleard the CMOS and tried to reboot then. I still get nothing.

>> Any other ideas?

> At this point, the odds are it is a bad motherboard.
> You've tried several power supplies, and all you can
> manage is a twitch. I'd try another motherboard.

Cant be that, he's already tried another motherboard.

Gotta be that it doesnt like that ram since he's swapped
everything else or the bios doesnt support that cpu, unlikely.


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