From: Rod Speed on
Joel <Joel(a)NoSpam.com> wrote:
> pdcjlw1(a)gmail.com wrote:
>
> <snip>
>> I've found the light on the motherboard you were talking about. It
>> does stay on. there is a different light on the POST diag board that
>> blinks on for a second. I've tried several different power supplies
>> and none make any difference. I've tried it with just one stick of
>> ram and swithed which ram stick that's in. I've got no drives
>> plugged in and the sound and video are on the motherboard. I've even
>> cleard the CMOS and tried to reboot then. I still get nothing.

>> Any other ideas?

> *If* the power supply work with other system but not with the problem
> one, then I guess either the motherboard or CPU went south.

He's already swapped both.

> And I dunno, the new mboard and CPU are much cheaper than bottle of aspirin
> and headache <g>, so I would say shoot for a trouble-free faster system.

> Hmmm... but if you don't have much trouble-shooting experience
> then you may be looking for another and bigger headache (?).

Its gotta be some fundamental problem like that motherboard
doesnt like that ram, or less likely the bios doesnt support that cpu.


From: Paul on


Rod Speed wrote:
>
> Paul <nospam(a)needed.com> wrote
> > pdcjlw1(a)gmail.com wrote
> >> Paul wrote
> >>> pdcjlw1(a)gmail.com wrote
>
> >>>> I've got an Intel D945GNT motherboard and a Pentium D 2.8 Ghz
> >>>> processor. I've also got two sticks of DDR2 memory at 533 MHZ.
> >>>> I am not able to get any video or even any post beeps out of the
> >>>> motherboard. I've even bought a motherboard diagnositc board to
> >>>> try and read any post codes, however I don't get any. I do see the
> >>>> cpu fan twitch when I turn on the power and the 3.3v light blinks,
> >>>> but that's it. I don't have any drives attached to the motherboard.
> >>>> I've replaced the motherboard, cpu and memory. I've even tried to
> >>>> boot without memory just to see if I could get any type of post code.
>
> >>>> I've tired it with the motherboard mounted in the case
> >>>> and out of the case. I've even tried different cases.
>
> >>>> Anybody got any ideas?
>
> >>> The +5 V standby power indicator LED (CR3J1) should
> >>> remain lit steady. It should not blink. If it blinks or goes off,
> >>> it means +5VSB is overloaded on the PSU, or the PSU has
> >>> protected itself by switching off everything. Remove the
> >>> motherboard from the computer case and assemble a minimum
> >>> system on your tabletop (with a cardboard covered phone
> >>> book underneath the motherboard for support). Removing
> >>> the motherboard from the case, ensures that no standoffs
> >>> are touching the motherboard, where they are not supposed to.
>
> >>> Using CPU+heatsink+fan, motherboard, PSU, computer case
> >>> speaker plugged to the PANEL header, computer case power
> >>> switch plugged to the PANEL header, while it all is
> >>> sitting on a piece of cardboard, you should be able to
> >>> get whatever error beep pattern an Intel board uses.
> >>> Your port 80 POST diagnostic card should display
> >>> codes other than 0x00 or 0xFF hex, if all is well.
> >>> If the POST card is showing some activity, or you
> >>> get some beep codes, you can switch off and add
> >>> more hardware to the system, until you get really bad
> >>> symptoms again. Add RAM, video card, keyboard+mouse,
> >>> and finally a boot drive, in that order, and observe
> >>> the symptoms after each test case.
>
> >> I've found the light on the motherboard you were talking about.
> >> It does stay on. there is a different light on the POST diag board
> >> that blinks on for a second. I've tried several different power
> >> supplies and none make any difference. I've tried it with just one
> >> stick of ram and swithed which ram stick that's in. I've got no drives
> >> plugged in and the sound and video are on the motherboard. I've
> >> even cleard the CMOS and tried to reboot then. I still get nothing.
>
> >> Any other ideas?
>
> > At this point, the odds are it is a bad motherboard.
> > You've tried several power supplies, and all you can
> > manage is a twitch. I'd try another motherboard.
>
> Cant be that, he's already tried another motherboard.
>
> Gotta be that it doesnt like that ram since he's swapped
> everything else or the bios doesnt support that cpu, unlikely.

I'm curious at this point, as to whether the power is staying on
during all these tests. If the power is staying on, then I like
your theory. If the power won't stay on, then something else
is wrong.

Paul
From: Rod Speed on
Paul <nospam(a)needed.com> wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote:
>>
>> Paul <nospam(a)needed.com> wrote
>>> pdcjlw1(a)gmail.com wrote
>>>> Paul wrote
>>>>> pdcjlw1(a)gmail.com wrote
>>
>>>>>> I've got an Intel D945GNT motherboard and a Pentium D 2.8 Ghz
>>>>>> processor. I've also got two sticks of DDR2 memory at 533 MHZ.
>>>>>> I am not able to get any video or even any post beeps out of the
>>>>>> motherboard. I've even bought a motherboard diagnositc board to
>>>>>> try and read any post codes, however I don't get any. I do see
>>>>>> the cpu fan twitch when I turn on the power and the 3.3v light
>>>>>> blinks, but that's it. I don't have any drives attached to the
>>>>>> motherboard. I've replaced the motherboard, cpu and memory. I've
>>>>>> even tried to boot without memory just to see if I could get any
>>>>>> type of post code.
>>
>>>>>> I've tired it with the motherboard mounted in the case
>>>>>> and out of the case. I've even tried different cases.
>>
>>>>>> Anybody got any ideas?
>>
>>>>> The +5 V standby power indicator LED (CR3J1) should
>>>>> remain lit steady. It should not blink. If it blinks or goes off,
>>>>> it means +5VSB is overloaded on the PSU, or the PSU has
>>>>> protected itself by switching off everything. Remove the
>>>>> motherboard from the computer case and assemble a minimum
>>>>> system on your tabletop (with a cardboard covered phone
>>>>> book underneath the motherboard for support). Removing
>>>>> the motherboard from the case, ensures that no standoffs
>>>>> are touching the motherboard, where they are not supposed to.
>>
>>>>> Using CPU+heatsink+fan, motherboard, PSU, computer case
>>>>> speaker plugged to the PANEL header, computer case power
>>>>> switch plugged to the PANEL header, while it all is
>>>>> sitting on a piece of cardboard, you should be able to
>>>>> get whatever error beep pattern an Intel board uses.
>>>>> Your port 80 POST diagnostic card should display
>>>>> codes other than 0x00 or 0xFF hex, if all is well.
>>>>> If the POST card is showing some activity, or you
>>>>> get some beep codes, you can switch off and add
>>>>> more hardware to the system, until you get really bad
>>>>> symptoms again. Add RAM, video card, keyboard+mouse,
>>>>> and finally a boot drive, in that order, and observe
>>>>> the symptoms after each test case.
>>
>>>> I've found the light on the motherboard you were talking about.
>>>> It does stay on. there is a different light on the POST diag board
>>>> that blinks on for a second. I've tried several different power
>>>> supplies and none make any difference. I've tried it with just one
>>>> stick of ram and swithed which ram stick that's in. I've got no
>>>> drives plugged in and the sound and video are on the motherboard.
>>>> I've
>>>> even cleard the CMOS and tried to reboot then. I still get nothing.
>>
>>>> Any other ideas?
>>
>>> At this point, the odds are it is a bad motherboard.
>>> You've tried several power supplies, and all you can
>>> manage is a twitch. I'd try another motherboard.
>>
>> Cant be that, he's already tried another motherboard.
>>
>> Gotta be that it doesnt like that ram since he's swapped
>> everything else or the bios doesnt support that cpu, unlikely.

> I'm curious at this point, as to whether the power is staying on
> during all these tests. If the power is staying on, then I like your
> theory. If the power won't stay on, then something else is wrong.

Not necessarily. Someone else got precisely that effect with
the bios not likely the ram and shutting down quite quickly.

That was fixed either by using ram it liked or by and
updated bios which worked fine with the original ram.

Posted in one of these groups in the last month or so.
Cant find it in groups.google for some reason, sure to be a brain fart on my part.


From: Rod Speed on
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa(a)gmail.com> wrote
> Paul <nospam(a)needed.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Paul <nospam(a)needed.com> wrote
>>>> pdcjlw1(a)gmail.com wrote
>>>>> Paul wrote
>>>>>> pdcjlw1(a)gmail.com wrote
>>>
>>>>>>> I've got an Intel D945GNT motherboard and a Pentium D 2.8 Ghz
>>>>>>> processor. I've also got two sticks of DDR2 memory at 533 MHZ.
>>>>>>> I am not able to get any video or even any post beeps out of the
>>>>>>> motherboard. I've even bought a motherboard diagnositc board to
>>>>>>> try and read any post codes, however I don't get any. I do see
>>>>>>> the cpu fan twitch when I turn on the power and the 3.3v light
>>>>>>> blinks, but that's it. I don't have any drives attached to the
>>>>>>> motherboard. I've replaced the motherboard, cpu and memory. I've
>>>>>>> even tried to boot without memory just to see if I could get any
>>>>>>> type of post code.
>>>
>>>>>>> I've tired it with the motherboard mounted in the case
>>>>>>> and out of the case. I've even tried different cases.
>>>
>>>>>>> Anybody got any ideas?
>>>
>>>>>> The +5 V standby power indicator LED (CR3J1) should
>>>>>> remain lit steady. It should not blink. If it blinks or goes off,
>>>>>> it means +5VSB is overloaded on the PSU, or the PSU has
>>>>>> protected itself by switching off everything. Remove the
>>>>>> motherboard from the computer case and assemble a minimum
>>>>>> system on your tabletop (with a cardboard covered phone
>>>>>> book underneath the motherboard for support). Removing
>>>>>> the motherboard from the case, ensures that no standoffs
>>>>>> are touching the motherboard, where they are not supposed to.
>>>
>>>>>> Using CPU+heatsink+fan, motherboard, PSU, computer case
>>>>>> speaker plugged to the PANEL header, computer case power
>>>>>> switch plugged to the PANEL header, while it all is
>>>>>> sitting on a piece of cardboard, you should be able to
>>>>>> get whatever error beep pattern an Intel board uses.
>>>>>> Your port 80 POST diagnostic card should display
>>>>>> codes other than 0x00 or 0xFF hex, if all is well.
>>>>>> If the POST card is showing some activity, or you
>>>>>> get some beep codes, you can switch off and add
>>>>>> more hardware to the system, until you get really bad
>>>>>> symptoms again. Add RAM, video card, keyboard+mouse,
>>>>>> and finally a boot drive, in that order, and observe
>>>>>> the symptoms after each test case.
>>>
>>>>> I've found the light on the motherboard you were talking about.
>>>>> It does stay on. there is a different light on the POST diag board
>>>>> that blinks on for a second. I've tried several different power
>>>>> supplies and none make any difference. I've tried it with just one
>>>>> stick of ram and swithed which ram stick that's in. I've got no
>>>>> drives plugged in and the sound and video are on the motherboard.
>>>>> I've
>>>>> even cleard the CMOS and tried to reboot then. I still get
>>>>> nothing.
>>>
>>>>> Any other ideas?
>>>
>>>> At this point, the odds are it is a bad motherboard.
>>>> You've tried several power supplies, and all you can
>>>> manage is a twitch. I'd try another motherboard.
>>>
>>> Cant be that, he's already tried another motherboard.
>>>
>>> Gotta be that it doesnt like that ram since he's swapped
>>> everything else or the bios doesnt support that cpu, unlikely.
>
>> I'm curious at this point, as to whether the power is staying on
>> during all these tests. If the power is staying on, then I like your
>> theory. If the power won't stay on, then something else is wrong.
>
> Not necessarily. Someone else got precisely that effect with
> the bios not likely the ram and shutting down quite quickly.
>
> That was fixed either by using ram it liked or by and
> updated bios which worked fine with the original ram.
>
> Posted in one of these groups in the last month or so.
> Cant find it in groups.google for some reason, sure to be a brain
> fart on my part.

Here it is
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt/browse_frm/thread/8c38bac1436889d2/0ac82dd5de888bcd


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