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From: DwayneM on 9 Mar 2010 18:49 I have an HP in need of a new motherboard specs are as follows amethystM motherboard with ATI RADEON XPRESS 200 chipset Processor with socket 939 I have pulled my hair out trying to find one on the web with no avail. Was told by HP that all newer motherboards would need DMI loaded onto hard drive.. Prefer to stay with what came with the PC. It's running XP (I know a little old) but there are some very vital programs that I use that have not been updated to VISTA or WIN 7 yet... can anyone Help z770958(a)peoplepc.com ------------------------------------- CDMeade ##-----------------------------------------------## Delivered via http://www.talkcomputer.com/ PC Building Community Web and RSS access to your favorite newsgroup - alt.comp.hardware - 71889 messages and counting! ##-----------------------------------------------##
From: Grinder on 9 Mar 2010 22:04 On 3/9/2010 5:49 PM, DwayneM wrote: > > I have an HP in need of a new motherboard > specs are as follows > > amethystM motherboard with ATI RADEON XPRESS 200 chipset > Processor with socket 939 > > I have pulled my hair out trying to find one on the web with no avail. > Was told by HP that all newer motherboards would need DMI loaded onto hard > drive.. I believe that statement to be horsesh*t. If their DMI is the same old crud that was producing those code purple errors, it can easily be circumvented. http://www.billoblog.com/?p=152 Or, I'll wager that you can avoid it all together my just installing XP from a generic OEM installer instead of a tattoo'd recovery disc. > Prefer to stay with what came with the PC. It's running XP (I know a > little old) but there are some very vital programs that I use that have > not been updated to VISTA or WIN 7 yet... can anyone Help I should note that it's easy for me to say this, as I won't have to suffer the consequences of being wrong.
From: kony on 10 Mar 2010 03:15 On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:04:58 -0600, Grinder <grinder(a)no.spam.maam.com> wrote: >On 3/9/2010 5:49 PM, DwayneM wrote: >> >> I have an HP in need of a new motherboard >> specs are as follows >> >> amethystM motherboard with ATI RADEON XPRESS 200 chipset >> Processor with socket 939 >> >> I have pulled my hair out trying to find one on the web with no avail. >> Was told by HP that all newer motherboards would need DMI loaded onto hard >> drive.. > >I believe that statement to be horsesh*t. If their DMI is the same old >crud that was producing those code purple errors, it can easily be >circumvented. > >http://www.billoblog.com/?p=152 > >Or, I'll wager that you can avoid it all together my just installing XP >from a generic OEM installer instead of a tattoo'd recovery disc. > >> Prefer to stay with what came with the PC. It's running XP (I know a >> little old) but there are some very vital programs that I use that have >> not been updated to VISTA or WIN 7 yet... can anyone Help > >I should note that it's easy for me to say this, as I won't have to >suffer the consequences of being wrong. Previously when I've had OEM installations or discs/new-installs stop and ask for activation, I simply had to call MS and read them the sticker off the OEM case label and they gave me a (an extremely long) activation code to make it work. In other words, I could have upgraded the entire computer and they would have still given an activation code... not that I advocate doing so since it's against the Windows EULA, but for information purposes and give the desire of the poster in this topic, that could work no matter what motherboard was put into the system.
From: Grinder on 10 Mar 2010 10:50 On 3/10/2010 2:15 AM, kony wrote: > On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:04:58 -0600, Grinder > <grinder(a)no.spam.maam.com> wrote: > >> On 3/9/2010 5:49 PM, DwayneM wrote: >>> >>> I have an HP in need of a new motherboard >>> specs are as follows >>> >>> amethystM motherboard with ATI RADEON XPRESS 200 chipset >>> Processor with socket 939 >>> >>> I have pulled my hair out trying to find one on the web with no avail. >>> Was told by HP that all newer motherboards would need DMI loaded onto hard >>> drive.. >> >> I believe that statement to be horsesh*t. If their DMI is the same old >> crud that was producing those code purple errors, it can easily be >> circumvented. >> >> http://www.billoblog.com/?p=152 >> >> Or, I'll wager that you can avoid it all together my just installing XP >>from a generic OEM installer instead of a tattoo'd recovery disc. >> >>> Prefer to stay with what came with the PC. It's running XP (I know a >>> little old) but there are some very vital programs that I use that have >>> not been updated to VISTA or WIN 7 yet... can anyone Help >> >> I should note that it's easy for me to say this, as I won't have to >> suffer the consequences of being wrong. > > > Previously when I've had OEM installations or > discs/new-installs stop and ask for activation, I simply had > to call MS and read them the sticker off the OEM case label > and they gave me a (an extremely long) activation code to > make it work. In other words, I could have upgraded the > entire computer and they would have still given an > activation code... not that I advocate doing so since it's > against the Windows EULA, but for information purposes and > give the desire of the poster in this topic, that could work > no matter what motherboard was put into the system. Agreed. What's more, internet XP activation seems to have relaxed a bit in the last few months. Previously, using a generic OEM install on certain manufacturer's PCs would require a phone call, but now it seems to pretty much activate any key that passes the input validation.
From: Paul on 10 Mar 2010 11:33 Grinder wrote: > On 3/10/2010 2:15 AM, kony wrote: >> On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:04:58 -0600, Grinder >> <grinder(a)no.spam.maam.com> wrote: >> >>> On 3/9/2010 5:49 PM, DwayneM wrote: >>>> >>>> I have an HP in need of a new motherboard >>>> specs are as follows >>>> >>>> amethystM motherboard with ATI RADEON XPRESS 200 chipset >>>> Processor with socket 939 >>>> >>>> I have pulled my hair out trying to find one on the web with no avail. >>>> Was told by HP that all newer motherboards would need DMI loaded >>>> onto hard >>>> drive.. >>> >>> I believe that statement to be horsesh*t. If their DMI is the same old >>> crud that was producing those code purple errors, it can easily be >>> circumvented. >>> >>> http://www.billoblog.com/?p=152 >>> >>> Or, I'll wager that you can avoid it all together my just installing XP >>> from a generic OEM installer instead of a tattoo'd recovery disc. >>> >>>> Prefer to stay with what came with the PC. It's running XP (I know a >>>> little old) but there are some very vital programs that I use that have >>>> not been updated to VISTA or WIN 7 yet... can anyone Help >>> >>> I should note that it's easy for me to say this, as I won't have to >>> suffer the consequences of being wrong. >> >> >> Previously when I've had OEM installations or >> discs/new-installs stop and ask for activation, I simply had >> to call MS and read them the sticker off the OEM case label >> and they gave me a (an extremely long) activation code to >> make it work. In other words, I could have upgraded the >> entire computer and they would have still given an >> activation code... not that I advocate doing so since it's >> against the Windows EULA, but for information purposes and >> give the desire of the poster in this topic, that could work >> no matter what motherboard was put into the system. > > Agreed. What's more, internet XP activation seems to have relaxed a bit > in the last few months. Previously, using a generic OEM install on > certain manufacturer's PCs would require a phone call, but now it seems > to pretty much activate any key that passes the input validation. That must explain why my motherboard change didn't need a phone call, when I did it recently. It was satisfied with Internet activation. No phone call. And the install CD was store bought WinXP SP3 OEM. I was expecting more of a hassle. Went from an Asrock board to a completely different Asus (different chipset). Just the motherboard was changed out, and the rest stayed the same. I used a PCI storage controller card, so I didn't even need to do a repair install. (That was to ensure there were drivers to read the disk on the upgraded system.) It gave me the "three day warning", concerning activation. I was mentally prepared for a rougher ride :-) Paul
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