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From: Paul J Gans on 27 Oct 2009 20:50 VWWall <vwall(a)large.invalid> wrote: >Paul J Gans wrote: >> Kevin Miller <atftb2(a)alaska.net> wrote: >> >>> I'm on my Debian box right now, and don't remember what the openSUSE "My >>> Computer" equivalent looks like >> >> In 11.1 (and earlier) it looks like a computer screen with Tux sitting >> at the right-hand side. It is named "MY Computer" and lists all the >> disks the system finds, including Windows disks. >> >The point is, it only "finds" the Partitions, (disks), that are a part >of its own install or Windows. On most distros I've used, "My Computer" >lists all the partitions on the box, and allows easy mounting. >Adding additional partitions to fstab will show them on "My Computer", >but why not show them by default? I don't know. I have a dual boot system here at home and all partitions on all disks are show. Of course the other OS is Windows, so I don't know about other OS's. -- --- Paul J. Gans
From: Paul J Gans on 27 Oct 2009 20:54 VWWall <vwall(a)large.invalid> wrote: >Kevin Miller wrote: >> VWWall wrote: >>> Why does openSUSE make it so hard to mount a partition from another >>> Linux distro? I multi-boot four Linux distros, (including openSUSE), >>> and WindowsXP. There are 12 partitions, two for each Linux distro, a >>> boot partition, a Windows partition, and a shared swap partition. >>> >>> I often wish to copy something from one Linux system to another. In >>> most Linux distros there's a "My Computer" or "Systems Media" which >>> shows all partitions, and allows mounting with a simple mouse click. >>> >>> I do know how to mount from the cli, and how to edit fstab to >>> automatically mount partitions. (openSUSE uses >>> "/dev/disk/by-id/scusi-SATA -(drive id)-partx" instead of UUID in >>> fstab), and mounts only its own partitions and some Windows partitions. >>> >>> Am I missing something? >> >> openSUSE is quite happy mounting a partition from another distro. >> You don't have to use the /dev/disk/by-id/ nomenclature. If you prefer >> you can use /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2, etc. You can change that in fstab if >> you like or you can add the additional partitions to using that style >> and leave the openSUSE partition descriptions as are they are. >> >Why not have the default install show all partitions? openSuse shows >all partitions by their approximate size. I have several of the same >size and there's no way to tell which one is which partition. I don't understand. If you open "My Computer" and click on one of the disk partitions, a window opens showing you the contents of the disk. If you can't tell by the files present, make a zero length file in the root partition of each disk with the file name a name to identify the disk. >> I'm on my Debian box right now, and don't remember what the openSUSE "My >> Computer" equivalent looks like but IIRC, there's on right there on on >> the desktop. I expect that after you add the partition info to fstab it >> will be able to see them just fine... >> >I just edited fstab, mounting /dev/sda12 to /mnt, (a default directory >in "/"), and it did indeed appear in "My Computer" as "17G Media". An >attempt to unmount failed. I can probably sort out the error message, >but this just illustrates my comments above! I could do it neatly by >making sub-directories under /mnt for each added partition in fsab. >See Paul Gans' reply and my comment above. It is possible to make it >show partitions by another identifier than size, but it requires some >extra work. Not much though. -- --- Paul J. Gans
From: David Bolt on 27 Oct 2009 22:15 On Tuesday 27 Oct 2009 16:56, Paul J Gans played with alphabet spaghetti and left this residue on the plate: > In 11.1 (and earlier) it looks like a computer screen with Tux sitting > at the right-hand side. On one of my 11.1 systems, which is running KDE4.3.1, it looks like a monitor with a blue background and Geeko in the middle of the "screen". It's the same on another 11.1 system, this time with KDE3.5.10, as does one of my 11.0 systems with KDE3.5.9. However, a third 11.1 system does have the icon as you describe it, which makes me wonder which icons are being used. At some point, I might even investigate it. > It is named "MY Computer" and lists all the > disks the system finds, including Windows disks. My wife's 10.3 system dual-boots Windows[0], and I can confirm that that is the sort of display she sees. My own systems are purely Linux based with a single distro. The only exception to this is an iMac which dual-boots MacOS 8.5 and openSUSE 11.1. The only problem is that, unless the file systems are named[1], you just get a generic name with the empty capacity to try and distinguish between them. Not a lot of help if there's several partitions with very similar sizes. [0] Don't ask why, she hasn't booted into Windows for such a long time that I can't remember her doing so. [1] Various tools can (re)name file systems from the command line, and YaST2 will do it through the GUI if you need to do it that way. Regards, David Bolt -- Team Acorn: www.distributed.net OGR-NG @ ~100Mnodes RC5-72 @ ~1Mkeys/s openSUSE 10.3 32b | openSUSE 11.0 32b | | openSUSE 10.3 64b | openSUSE 11.0 64b | openSUSE 11.1 64b | openSUSE 11.2rc1 RISC OS 4.02 | RISC OS 3.11 | openSUSE 11.1 PPC | TOS 4.02
From: VWWall on 28 Oct 2009 13:06 Paul J Gans wrote: > VWWall <vwall(a)large.invalid> wrote: > > I don't understand. If you open "My Computer" and click on one > of the disk partitions, a window opens showing you the contents > of the disk. If you can't tell by the files present, make a > zero length file in the root partition of each disk with the file > name a name to identify the disk. > I often d/l a file to "/home" in one distro and find I would like to have a copy in another distro. "My Computer" in openSUSE will not even show the other distro's partition, since it's not mounted. I can edit fstab, using YAST if desired, to mount any or all non-SUSE partitions. These then show only by approximate size. Sure, I can open each, hoping to find the one I want to copy to, but identifying them by almost anything other then size would be helpful. >> I just edited fstab, mounting /dev/sda12 to /mnt, (a default directory >> in "/"), and it did indeed appear in "My Computer" as "17G Media". An >> attempt to unmount failed. I can probably sort out the error message, >> but this just illustrates my comments above! I could do it neatly by >> making sub-directories under /mnt for each added partition in fsab. > The error: **"Device has /dev/sda12 volume.ignore set to TRUE. Refusing to mount"*** It's already mounted! I just want to un-mount it! umount /dev/sda12 as root from the cli did work; why not from "My Computer"? This partition is actually PCLOS /home, but there are more "17G" partitions. Why not have *all* partitions, not just SUSE and Windows, appear in fstab using noauto as mount. Then "My Computer", that terrible Windows left-over, could show them all and allow mounting/unmounting by a simple right-click, as it now does for the ones it shows. Many distros have avoided using "My Computer" by having an entry like: "System>>Storage Media" which shows all partitions on the system. >> See Paul Gans' reply and my comment above. It is possible to make it >> show partitions by another identifier than size, but it requires some >> extra work. > > Not much though. > Maybe I'm missing something. Tell me how to do it. -- Virg Wall
From: David Bolt on 28 Oct 2009 13:00
On Wednesday 28 Oct 2009 15:51, EOS played with alphabet spaghetti and left this residue on the plate: > houghi wrote: > >> Why would you need that info? >> >> houghi > > You not ;-) > > I use it sometimes to see > if my HD is full or empty Using Konqueror, right-click and select "properties" or, using KDE4, open Dolphin and do the same. Alternatively, under Dolphin Settings -> General -> Status Bar just make sure that the "Show space information" is enabled and then you'll see the free space information at the bottom of the window every time you open it up. Regards, David Bolt -- Team Acorn: www.distributed.net OGR-NG @ ~100Mnodes RC5-72 @ ~1Mkeys/s openSUSE 10.3 32b | openSUSE 11.0 32b | | openSUSE 10.3 64b | openSUSE 11.0 64b | openSUSE 11.1 64b | openSUSE 11.2rc1 RISC OS 4.02 | RISC OS 3.11 | openSUSE 11.1 PPC | TOS 4.02 |