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From: Julie Bove on 17 Apr 2010 04:29

"Colin Trunt" <colin(a)trunt.com> wrote in message
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> "Colin Trunt" <colin(a)trunt.com> wrote in message
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>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>> "Colin Trunt" <colin(a)trunt.com> wrote in message
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>>>> Sometimes the pointer disappears and the only way to get it back is
>>>> to reinsert it into the USB socket.
>>>> I think the cable near the mouse may have a break in it
>>>> intermittant which might cause the problem, does that sound
>>>> reasonable?
>>>>
>>>> Using another mouse now as it happens often.
>>>>
>>>> Guess I will try and open it up to have a look.
>>>> Is it just two wires?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Why does it matter? For the value of your time that it takes you to
>>> figure it out you could go to WalMart and buy a better one. Nobody in
>>> the free world should be using a wired mouse or wired keyboard anymore.
>>> Get with the '90s!
>>>
>>
>> Maybe so I just don't like paying more then I need or waste.
>> Like to have a go at fixing it.
>>
>> Also I imagine it is very very easy to lose a wireless mouse!!
>>
>> + how loneg do batteries last?
>
>
> Update, wel I took it apart and it you can see the outer covering
> of the wires near the mouse is broken exposing the inner wires,
> I managed to shirt that area inside the mouse.
> I didn't think I would ever get the mouse back togeather such that
> it worked (clicked) properly, it's a horrible design.
> Anyway when I tried it again I USB device nor recognised.
> So I think I better start looking for a new one!!
> It could be all the messing about broke the inner wires which might be
> fixable
> but I think I will give up because I really think I would be risking
> damaging
> my computer via the usb port.
>
>
> So I will have to find the most suitable one on the net and then go to
> the store to find it is out of stock :O)

I have a Dell Optical mouse and I love it!


From: Colin Trunt on 18 Apr 2010 15:10

"Julie Bove" <juliebove(a)verizon.net> wrote in message
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> "Colin Trunt" <colin(a)trunt.com> wrote in message
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>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>> "Colin Trunt" <colin(a)trunt.com> wrote in message
>>> news:aB4yn.81903$oe5.38427(a)newsfe27.ams2...
>>>> Sometimes the pointer disappears and the only way to get it back is
>>>> to reinsert it into the USB socket.
>>>> I think the cable near the mouse may have a break in it
>>>> intermittant which might cause the problem, does that sound
>>>> reasonable?
>>>>
>>>> Using another mouse now as it happens often.
>>>>
>>>> Guess I will try and open it up to have a look.
>>>> Is it just two wires?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Why does it matter? For the value of your time that it takes you to
>>> figure it out you could go to WalMart and buy a better one. Nobody in
>>> the free world should be using a wired mouse or wired keyboard anymore.
>>> Get with the '90s!
>>>
>>
>> Maybe so I just don't like paying more then I need or waste.
>> Like to have a go at fixing it.
>>
>> Also I imagine it is very very easy to lose a wireless mouse!!
>>
>> + how loneg do batteries last?
>
> I had a wireless mouse years ago. Hated the thing. Yes, I did lose it.
> A lot. Worse yet, my husband was constantly sticking something in front
> of the controller thingie with the antennae on it.

Yea I bet wehen you desperately need to find it it will be down the
back of the sofa or in the microwave so somewhere silly.
When I used to lose the TV remote control I was thinking it would be a good
ideea
to have a long 'tail' on it.

>
> I can't remember how long the batteries lasted. Maybe less than a year?

Not really a problem then.
>
>


From: Colin Trunt on 20 Apr 2010 14:47

"baron" <baron.nospam(a)linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote in message
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> Colin Trunt Inscribed thus:
>>>> Anyway I am going to test the wires on my old broken, mouse, I have
>>>> a multimeter so I should be able to tests for breaks, if here are no
>>>> breaks them the chip must be dead.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The LED comes on so it does get power.
>>>
>>>
>>> Well I tested all the connections with my multimeter and there
>>> seems to be no break, could be intermittant though.
>>> It's a bit weird really, maybe a loose connection on the board?
>>
>> You obviously did not test them throughtly enough Colin ;)
>> Just talking to myself cos I tested them agian after I inspected the
>> wires again and became convinced one of them was broken.
>> On that test that wire did seem to be an open circuit (broken wire).
>> So I broke the wire fully, stripped the insulation, twisted wires
>> togeather, re-tested and success a buzz from my meter indicitating a
>> circuit!!
>> I pulled into USB port, no error message, and cursor moved!!
>>
>> I have put the mouse back togeather how and it works, although it now
>> seems all 'wrong' compared to the other much lighter and faster mouse
>> - lol. I think it wll take a while for my brain to re-adjust to the
>> dynamics of it again.
>>
>>
>> I think I may have got a false positive before because you can lose
>> track of which connection you are testing if the connector flips over.
>>
>> What made me try again was because the symptoms of the fault matched
>> a breaking/broken wire, it did seem inconcievable it could have been a
>> chip as that would have been instant and permanent.
>> Also the curcuit board looked rock solid, further more even a short
>> circut burning something out seemed unlikely it's only 5V I believe,
>> plus no indication of a burning on the circuit board!!
>>
>>
>> I may open it up agan to adjust the wires because the one I broke is
>> shorter then the other 4, but I will probably wait untill I have a
>> probelm with it.
>>
>> Only problen now is it seems so slow and sluggish compared to the
>> previous one (which seemed to sensitive at first!!).
>>
>>
>> I guess I will guess used to it!!
>>
>> Saved myself a few quid!!
>
> Glad to hear you found the problem & fixed it. :-)


Yes I was pretty pleased because I had written the thing off but I just
thought I would
give it one more try because I could not believe anything inside the mouse
had magically failed,
especaiilly so when I found it needs no driver so it could not be software
either.

I have gotten used to the dynamics of the mouse again too now, so all is
well!



>
> --
> Best Regards:
> Baron.


From: baron on 20 Apr 2010 09:29
Colin Trunt Inscribed thus:
>>> Anyway I am going to test the wires on my old broken, mouse, I have
>>> a multimeter so I should be able to tests for breaks, if here are no
>>> breaks them the chip must be dead.
>>>
>>>
>>> The LED comes on so it does get power.
>>
>>
>> Well I tested all the connections with my multimeter and there
>> seems to be no break, could be intermittant though.
>> It's a bit weird really, maybe a loose connection on the board?
>
> You obviously did not test them throughtly enough Colin ;)
> Just talking to myself cos I tested them agian after I inspected the
> wires again and became convinced one of them was broken.
> On that test that wire did seem to be an open circuit (broken wire).
> So I broke the wire fully, stripped the insulation, twisted wires
> togeather, re-tested and success a buzz from my meter indicitating a
> circuit!!
> I pulled into USB port, no error message, and cursor moved!!
>
> I have put the mouse back togeather how and it works, although it now
> seems all 'wrong' compared to the other much lighter and faster mouse
> - lol. I think it wll take a while for my brain to re-adjust to the
> dynamics of it again.
>
>
> I think I may have got a false positive before because you can lose
> track of which connection you are testing if the connector flips over.
>
> What made me try again was because the symptoms of the fault matched
> a breaking/broken wire, it did seem inconcievable it could have been a
> chip as that would have been instant and permanent.
> Also the curcuit board looked rock solid, further more even a short
> circut burning something out seemed unlikely it's only 5V I believe,
> plus no indication of a burning on the circuit board!!
>
>
> I may open it up agan to adjust the wires because the one I broke is
> shorter then the other 4, but I will probably wait untill I have a
> probelm with it.
>
> Only problen now is it seems so slow and sluggish compared to the
> previous one (which seemed to sensitive at first!!).
>
>
> I guess I will guess used to it!!
>
> Saved myself a few quid!!

Glad to hear you found the problem & fixed it. :-)

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Best Regards:
Baron.
From: Baron on 19 Apr 2010 12:58
Colin Trunt Inscribed thus:

> Well I did find it earlier and I think it's the same except for
> colours swapped around.
> http://www.wilkinsonplus.com/Mice/Trust-Optical-Mouse/invt/0262971
>
>
> Can't go too far wrong at that price! Not wireless though.

Most of their mice use the same circuit board.

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Best Regards:
Baron.
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