From: Colin Trunt on 19 Apr 2010 14:22 "Baron" <baron.nospam(a)linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote in message news:hqi23r$q9k$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > Colin Trunt Inscribed thus: > >> Well I did find it earlier and I think it's the same except for >> colours swapped around. >> http://www.wilkinsonplus.com/Mice/Trust-Optical-Mouse/invt/0262971 >> >> >> Can't go too far wrong at that price! Not wireless though. > > Most of their mice use the same circuit board. There are just two chips, the controler chip (I assume) and one over the lazer bit which I presume deals with the image detection. Anyway I think I may get a wireless 5 button mouse on ebay. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2-4G-USB-5-Button-10M-Wireless-Optical-Mouse-Windows-7_W0QQitemZ250616637858QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Computing_ComputerComponents_KeyboardsMice?hash=item3a59ea69a2 or http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TRUST-WIRELESS-USB-OPTICAL-5-BUTTON-SCROLL-MOUSE-MI7570_W0QQitemZ260578640787QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Computing_ComputerComponents_KeyboardsMice?hash=item3cabb28393 (amd brand as my old wired one > > -- > Best Regards: > Baron.
From: Colin Trunt on 19 Apr 2010 16:38 "Baron" <baron.nospam(a)linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote in message news:hqi23r$q9k$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > Colin Trunt Inscribed thus: > >> Well I did find it earlier and I think it's the same except for >> colours swapped around. >> http://www.wilkinsonplus.com/Mice/Trust-Optical-Mouse/invt/0262971 >> >> >> Can't go too far wrong at that price! Not wireless though. > > Most of their mice use the same circuit board. Just a note to say I have fixed it (see other post) > > -- > Best Regards: > Baron.
From: Colin Trunt on 19 Apr 2010 16:50 "Julie Bove" <juliebove(a)verizon.net> wrote in message news:hqbrh5$onq$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > "Colin Trunt" <colin(a)trunt.com> wrote in message > news:an9yn.166134$5D3.53174(a)newsfe03.ams2... >> >> "Colin Trunt" <colin(a)trunt.com> wrote in message >> news:xH5yn.3513$bn4.2855(a)newsfe20.ams2... >>> >>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >>> news:hqanvf$at1$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>> >>>> "Colin Trunt" <colin(a)trunt.com> wrote in message >>>> news:aB4yn.81903$oe5.38427(a)newsfe27.ams2... >>>>> Sometimes the pointer disappears and the only way to get it back is >>>>> to reinsert it into the USB socket. >>>>> I think the cable near the mouse may have a break in it >>>>> intermittant which might cause the problem, does that sound >>>>> reasonable? >>>>> >>>>> Using another mouse now as it happens often. >>>>> >>>>> Guess I will try and open it up to have a look. >>>>> Is it just two wires? >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Why does it matter? For the value of your time that it takes you to >>>> figure it out you could go to WalMart and buy a better one. Nobody in >>>> the free world should be using a wired mouse or wired keyboard anymore. >>>> Get with the '90s! >>>> >>> >>> Maybe so I just don't like paying more then I need or waste. >>> Like to have a go at fixing it. >>> >>> Also I imagine it is very very easy to lose a wireless mouse!! >>> >>> + how loneg do batteries last? >> >> >> Update, wel I took it apart and it you can see the outer covering >> of the wires near the mouse is broken exposing the inner wires, >> I managed to shirt that area inside the mouse. >> I didn't think I would ever get the mouse back togeather such that >> it worked (clicked) properly, it's a horrible design. >> Anyway when I tried it again I USB device nor recognised. >> So I think I better start looking for a new one!! >> It could be all the messing about broke the inner wires which might be >> fixable >> but I think I will give up because I really think I would be risking >> damaging >> my computer via the usb port. >> >> >> So I will have to find the most suitable one on the net and then go to >> the store to find it is out of stock :O) > > I have a Dell Optical mouse and I love it! Just a note to say I have fixed it (see other post). I think you do get used to a mouse though, they become virtualy hard wired into your brain after a while, as I found out when switching back and forth, my back-up mouse seemed way to fast and sensitive at first, but now I have switched back this one seems, slow and heavy, it is set at max speed too!! Also this one has a harder. longer and louder click, however it does have a 'back' button to go to previos page which I liked, but then again I got used to doing left click and back on my other one. I may still get a wireless 5 button mouse, especialy if I see one going cheap in a shop!! > >
From: Jeff Strickland on 20 Apr 2010 19:34 "Colin Trunt" <colin(a)trunt.com> wrote in message news:aB4yn.81903$oe5.38427(a)newsfe27.ams2... > Sometimes the pointer disappears and the only way to get it back is > to reinsert it into the USB socket. > I think the cable near the mouse may have a break in it > intermittant which might cause the problem, does that sound > reasonable? > > Using another mouse now as it happens often. > > Guess I will try and open it up to have a look. > Is it just two wires? > The next time you want to say, see other post, 17 times, try this instead ..... Reply to your first post and leave the original subject intact, then follow by a couple of dashes and in allcaps, the word update. Following thi8s convention, the subject would become Re: Mouse stops working -- UPDATE Your resolution then becomes a new thread of the original discussion, and those that are interested in the updated information can see it easily. You could replace UPDATE with RESOLVED, or other distinguishing words like that.
From: Jeff Strickland on 20 Apr 2010 19:38 "Colin Trunt" <colin(a)trunt.com> wrote in message news:6Fmzn.16837$gj4.6452(a)newsfe28.ams2... > > "baron" <baron.nospam(a)linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote in message > news:hqka7n$gj8$2(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> Colin Trunt Inscribed thus: >>>>> Anyway I am going to test the wires on my old broken, mouse, I have >>>>> a multimeter so I should be able to tests for breaks, if here are no >>>>> breaks them the chip must be dead. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The LED comes on so it does get power. >>>> >>>> >>>> Well I tested all the connections with my multimeter and there >>>> seems to be no break, could be intermittant though. >>>> It's a bit weird really, maybe a loose connection on the board? >>> >>> You obviously did not test them throughtly enough Colin ;) >>> Just talking to myself cos I tested them agian after I inspected the >>> wires again and became convinced one of them was broken. >>> On that test that wire did seem to be an open circuit (broken wire). >>> So I broke the wire fully, stripped the insulation, twisted wires >>> togeather, re-tested and success a buzz from my meter indicitating a >>> circuit!! >>> I pulled into USB port, no error message, and cursor moved!! >>> >>> I have put the mouse back togeather how and it works, although it now >>> seems all 'wrong' compared to the other much lighter and faster mouse >>> - lol. I think it wll take a while for my brain to re-adjust to the >>> dynamics of it again. >>> >>> >>> I think I may have got a false positive before because you can lose >>> track of which connection you are testing if the connector flips over. >>> >>> What made me try again was because the symptoms of the fault matched >>> a breaking/broken wire, it did seem inconcievable it could have been a >>> chip as that would have been instant and permanent. >>> Also the curcuit board looked rock solid, further more even a short >>> circut burning something out seemed unlikely it's only 5V I believe, >>> plus no indication of a burning on the circuit board!! >>> >>> >>> I may open it up agan to adjust the wires because the one I broke is >>> shorter then the other 4, but I will probably wait untill I have a >>> probelm with it. >>> >>> Only problen now is it seems so slow and sluggish compared to the >>> previous one (which seemed to sensitive at first!!). >>> >>> >>> I guess I will guess used to it!! >>> >>> Saved myself a few quid!! >> >> Glad to hear you found the problem & fixed it. :-) > > > Yes I was pretty pleased because I had written the thing off but I just > thought I would > give it one more try because I could not believe anything inside the mouse > had magically failed, > especaiilly so when I found it needs no driver so it could not be software > either. > > I have gotten used to the dynamics of the mouse again too now, so all is > well! > > You should be able to find the Mouse Control Panel and adjust the programmable behavior of the mouse. You can wash the mouse's feet if it is sticking to the mouse pad. You're allowed to wash the pad too because it builds up with oil from potato chips and french fries, and this slows the mouse considerably.
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