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From: Robert Macy on 8 Apr 2010 04:02 On Apr 7, 5:31 pm, "Ritter197" <Ritter...(a)Comcast.net> wrote: > My HP Pavilion Q8200, 8GB RAM, WIN7 scores low compared > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > MY HP Pavilion Intel CPU Q8200 scores low when compared with other CPUs, > same Q8200, same RAM (8GB or less) same Graphics Express NVDIA 9400GT, > Windows 7, no applications loaded other than ESET NOD32 AV. > My HP gets only a score of 691 whereas a worldwide database for same CPU, > same RAM, same Graphics card gets 1220, 1144, 1191, 1291 and higher. > I have deleted all cookies, de-fragmented my hard drive, reduced Restore > points. > HP support is poor and spending 1 hour with them is useless. > Any ideas here??? hardware or software? just a shot in the dark: any chance your RAM is too slow and has a 'wait' state in there? Skipping one clock cycle would definitely slow you down by almost a factor of two. Right?
From: Robert Macy on 8 Apr 2010 04:04 On Apr 8, 1:02 am, Robert Macy <m...(a)california.com> wrote: > On Apr 7, 5:31 pm, "Ritter197" <Ritter...(a)Comcast.net> wrote: > > > My HP Pavilion Q8200, 8GB RAM, WIN7 scores low compared > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > MY HP Pavilion Intel CPU Q8200 scores low when compared with other CPUs, > > same Q8200, same RAM (8GB or less) same Graphics Express NVDIA 9400GT, > > Windows 7, no applications loaded other than ESET NOD32 AV. > > My HP gets only a score of 691 whereas a worldwide database for same CPU, > > same RAM, same Graphics card gets 1220, 1144, 1191, 1291 and higher. > > I have deleted all cookies, de-fragmented my hard drive, reduced Restore > > points. > > HP support is poor and spending 1 hour with them is useless. > > Any ideas here??? > > hardware or software? just a shot in the dark: > > any chance your RAM is too slow and has a 'wait' state in there? > > Skipping one clock cycle would definitely slow you down by almost a > factor of two. Right? I meant one bus cycle
From: SC Tom on 8 Apr 2010 07:29 I used to play the benchmark game years ago, and for the most part, all it did was frustrate me. "Why isn't my 486 as fast another identical 486?" Well, there are hundreds of reasons (or more) of why not. Different revisions of CPU's, motherboards, add-in cards, etc. will cause a wider difference in scores than one would think. Different RAM manufacturers (and sometimes the same manufacturers since they get their chips from different makers who have different plants, etc.) will cause a difference, even though the RAM is rated the same. All those little differences add up to create a slower or faster bottom line. When I was working, we'd get a number of PC's in that were supposed to be the same. Most times, they even had sequential serial numbers. Invariably, there would be one or two out of the dozen or so that we got at a time that were noticeably slower than the rest. Same CPU, HDD, CD, RAM, MB, software, etc. But without even using a benchmark program, you could tell this one wasn't up to par. For grins and giggles, I ran PT7 and compared my system to similar ones. Comparing CPU's, mine was on a par with or slower than other AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4800+ CPU's. Overall scores were slightly higher than similar systems with the same MB, but not enough to brag about. Some of the test results available for comparison were so wildly different, I'd like to see how the systems were set up. When two supposedly identical systems have a 1000 point difference, how can you verify the validity of the testing procedure or the tester? In fact, re-running the test within the hour got me a 50 point difference from the previous results. The bottom line is that benchmark programs really don't mean anything. If your PC makes you happy, and runs the stuff you want it to run in a manner you'd like it to run, then your PC is plenty fast. If you're having problems with some program, then it's time to delve into the reasons why that may be. -- SC Tom "Owning a handgun doesn't make you armed any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician." Lt. Col. J.D. "Jeff" Cooper, USMC, Ret. "Ritter197" <Ritter197(a)Comcast.net> wrote in message news:OFAudCs1KHA.5828(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > OK, noted. Thanks. > > "SC Tom" <sc(a)tom.net> wrote in message > news:Oy43n1r1KHA.224(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> >> "Ritter197" <Ritter197(a)Comcast.net> wrote in message >> news:O5tqHLr1KHA.776(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> My HP Pavilion Q8200, 8GB RAM, WIN7 scores low compared >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> MY HP Pavilion Intel CPU Q8200 scores low when compared with other CPUs, >>> same Q8200, same RAM (8GB or less) same Graphics Express NVDIA 9400GT, >>> Windows 7, no applications loaded other than ESET NOD32 AV. >>> My HP gets only a score of 691 whereas a worldwide database for same >>> CPU, same RAM, same Graphics card gets 1220, 1144, 1191, 1291 and >>> higher. >>> I have deleted all cookies, de-fragmented my hard drive, reduced Restore >>> points. >>> HP support is poor and spending 1 hour with them is useless. >>> Any ideas here??? >>> >>> >> >> Here's another idea: Crosspost, do not multipost >> http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm >> -- >> SC Tom >> >> "Owning a handgun doesn't make you armed >> any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician." >> Lt. Col. J.D. "Jeff" Cooper, USMC, Ret. >>
From: Ritter197 on 8 Apr 2010 13:39 The CPU scores always low. The memory scores high with 8 GB RAM. I compare it to other CPUs in the worldwide database with same CPU and same Graphics cards, and it always the CPU that scores low on mine and high on the other. Always. "Robert Macy" <macy(a)california.com> wrote in message news:ab38517b-cfd1-446e-a63d-1426a10a6bd0(a)i25g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... > On Apr 7, 5:31 pm, "Ritter197" <Ritter...(a)Comcast.net> wrote: >> My HP Pavilion Q8200, 8GB RAM, WIN7 scores low compared >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------�----- >> >> MY HP Pavilion Intel CPU Q8200 scores low when compared with other CPUs, >> same Q8200, same RAM (8GB or less) same Graphics Express NVDIA 9400GT, >> Windows 7, no applications loaded other than ESET NOD32 AV. >> My HP gets only a score of 691 whereas a worldwide database for same CPU, >> same RAM, same Graphics card gets 1220, 1144, 1191, 1291 and higher. >> I have deleted all cookies, de-fragmented my hard drive, reduced Restore >> points. >> HP support is poor and spending 1 hour with them is useless. >> Any ideas here??? > > hardware or software? just a shot in the dark: > > any chance your RAM is too slow and has a 'wait' state in there? > > Skipping one clock cycle would definitely slow you down by almost a > factor of two. Right?
From: Ritter197 on 8 Apr 2010 13:40
How can I check the 1 bus cycle??? "Robert Macy" <macy(a)california.com> wrote in message news:e647782e-84c3-4785-924f-80d70ffe901a(a)z7g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... > On Apr 8, 1:02 am, Robert Macy <m...(a)california.com> wrote: >> On Apr 7, 5:31 pm, "Ritter197" <Ritter...(a)Comcast.net> wrote: >> >> > My HP Pavilion Q8200, 8GB RAM, WIN7 scores low compared >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------��----- >> >> > MY HP Pavilion Intel CPU Q8200 scores low when compared with other >> > CPUs, >> > same Q8200, same RAM (8GB or less) same Graphics Express NVDIA 9400GT, >> > Windows 7, no applications loaded other than ESET NOD32 AV. >> > My HP gets only a score of 691 whereas a worldwide database for same >> > CPU, >> > same RAM, same Graphics card gets 1220, 1144, 1191, 1291 and higher. >> > I have deleted all cookies, de-fragmented my hard drive, reduced >> > Restore >> > points. >> > HP support is poor and spending 1 hour with them is useless. >> > Any ideas here??? >> >> hardware or software? just a shot in the dark: >> >> any chance your RAM is too slow and has a 'wait' state in there? >> >> Skipping one clock cycle would definitely slow you down by almost a >> factor of two. Right? > > I meant one bus cycle |