From: George Greene on
On Jun 14, 12:43 am, "|-|ercules" <radgray...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> Do you agree that all the digits of pi are in this set?
>
> 3
> 31
> 314


THIS IS NOT A SET, DUMBASS!
THIS IS A LIST!
AND PI IS NOT ON this list, since every digit string that IS on this
list IS FINITE,
while PI IS INFINITELY long!


From: |-|ercules on
"George Greene" <greeneg(a)email.unc.edu> wrote ..
> On Jun 14, 12:43 am, "|-|ercules" <radgray...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Do you agree that all the digits of pi are in this set?
>>
>> 3
>> 31
>> 314
>
>
> THIS IS NOT A SET, DUMBASS!
> THIS IS A LIST!
> AND PI IS NOT ON this list, since every digit string that IS on this
> list IS FINITE,
> while PI IS INFINITELY long!


Lists are not sets now?

Herc
From: |-|ercules on
"George Greene" <greeneg(a)email.unc.edu> wrote
> On Jun 14, 12:43 am, "|-|ercules" <radgray...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Do you agree that all the digits of pi are in this set?
>>
>> 3
>> 31
>> 314
>
>
> Of course we do, but the
> infinite digit string
> 111111....
> NEVER OCCURS IN THIS SET, DUMBASS.
> NOR DOES PI ITSELF, DUMBASS, because EVERY
> string in this set IS FINITE, DUMBASS!
> THERE ARE NO INFINITE DIGIT STRINGS IN THIS SET,
> DUMBASS!


<font size=oo> SO WHAT! </font>



Every digit of pi is on that list dumbass!

You know what that means dumbass?

Herc

From: Colin on
Wow, such vitriol! Yet everyone seems to be ingoring the fundamental
error that Herc is making. What he's saying is this:

Let S be an infinite sequence of digits. Herc claims that

(1) for every natural number n, there is an algorithm f s.t. f(n)= the
nth digit in S

implies

(2) there is an algorithm f s.t. for every natural number n, f(n)= the
nth digit in S.

But (1) definitely does not imply (2), and Herc is committing a very
basic quantifier shift fallacy.
From: Graham Cooper on
On Jun 15, 3:15 am, Colin <colinpoa...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> Wow, such vitriol! Yet everyone seems to be ingoring the fundamental
> error that Herc is making. What he's saying is this:
>
> Let S be an infinite sequence of digits. Herc claims that
>
> (1)     for every natural number n, there is an algorithm f s.t. f(n)= the
> nth digit in S
>
> implies
>
> (2)     there is an algorithm f s.t. for every natural number n, f(n)= the
> nth digit in S.
>
> But (1) definitely does not imply (2), and Herc is committing a very
> basic quantifier shift fallacy.


There are special cases where 1 does not imply 2

3
31
314
...

This list contains every digit of pi

similarly computable sequences contain every digit of every
possible sequence

therefore this argument does not hold

123
456
789

diag = 159
antidiag = 260

new digit sequence

Herc