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From: Justin on 27 May 2010 14:33
Justin wrote on [Thu, 27 May 2010 18:31:30 +0000 (UTC)]:
> John Navas wrote on [Thu, 27 May 2010 11:23:53 -0700]:
>> On Thu, 27 May 2010 18:21:33 +0000 (UTC), Justin <nospam(a)insightbb.com>
>> wrote in <htmd7d$sgc$5(a)news.eternal-september.org>:
>>
>>>nospam wrote on [Thu, 27 May 2010 10:47:43 -0700]:
>>>> In article <htma86$33b$6(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Justin
>>>> <nospam(a)insightbb.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My 8GB nano runs out of power when I go to Australia. So, it happens.
>>>>
>>>> how often do you do that? going to australia is not something people do
>>>> on a regular basis. the ipod nano is rated for 24 hours of music
>>>> playback and that's enough for a round trip to australia. or just buy
>>>> an airline adapter. so yes, it happens but it's very rare.
>>>
>>>Annually at least. There are hundreds of thousands of people that work in one
>>>country and have immediate family on the other side of the planet.
>>>
>>>By the way, it takes 24 hours each way from where I am, due to the airlines
>>>not having direct flights. None of the planes I have flown on have power
>>>anywhere near where I sit. So, two batteries to swap out would be great.
>>>My Creative Zen let me do that.
>>
>> You could of course get a low cost battery extender,
>> which works quite well.
>
> True, then I would have a dongle hanging from my iPod making it somewhat less
> convenient to just throw in a shirt pocket and listen.

I forgot to mention that this also requires the battery extender have a
propietary adapter so it can actually connect to the iPod.
From: Justin on 27 May 2010 14:56
nospam wrote on [Thu, 27 May 2010 11:38:22 -0700]:
> In article <htmdq1$sgc$6(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Justin
> <nospam(a)insightbb.com> wrote:
>
>> > You could of course get a low cost battery extender,
>> > which works quite well.
>>
>> True, then I would have a dongle hanging from my iPod making it somewhat less
>> convenient to just throw in a shirt pocket and listen.
>
> many of them snap on and add very little extra bulk, but since this is
> for a plane flight to australia, you don't need to throw it in a shirt
> pocket. keep trying though, it's entertaining.

Oh yes, where would you suggest I put it? Hold it in my lap for the entire trip
or perhaps my hand? The seat pocket in front of me is inconvenient due to
people getting in and out (I sit in the aisle). The flights are almost
always full or close to full, so not the seat next to me either.
From: Justin on 27 May 2010 14:57
nospam wrote on [Thu, 27 May 2010 11:39:36 -0700]:
> In article <htmdtd$sgc$7(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Justin
> <nospam(a)insightbb.com> wrote:
>
>> I forgot to mention that this also requires the battery extender have a
>> propietary adapter so it can actually connect to the iPod.
>
> there are *lots* of ipod battery extenders and the connector is used by
> thousands of accessories. or, you can get something that has a usb port
> and use the included cable, although that's far less elegant. not even
> a good attempt.

There are also *lots* of USB mini extenders on the market, which can
charge more than a single proprietary device.
From: Justin on 27 May 2010 22:40
nospam wrote on [Thu, 27 May 2010 12:38:05 -0700]:
> In article <htmf5p$sgc$10(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Justin
> <nospam(a)insightbb.com> wrote:
>
>> > so two days out of a year it's not enough. that's 363 days where the
>> > battery life is more than adequate, 364 days for leap years.
>>
>> I'm sorry, I came up with an actual use case issue without even
>> looking into others, such as camping, hiking, other times when you
>> are disconnected from the grid for extended periods of time
>
> i never said there weren't any use cases where an ipod battery won't
> last long enough. the point is it's rare.
>
> there are also use cases at the other end of the spectrum, where a user
> can go several weeks between charges.
>
> for the vast majority of users, it's more then enough, including you.
> only on two days out of the entire year is it an issue, and you said
> you have a second player anyway, so it really isn't an issue at all.

No, I didn't. Even if I did, I can't sync up where my audio book is between
the two.

If it's not usable when I need it most, then it's useless.

>> Never mind people like my brother-in-law who travel between Taiwan
>> and Indiana every few weeks for business.
>
> out of 250 million ipod owners, how many do you think actually do that?
> seriously. most people don't even fly domestic, let alone overseas.

I imagine a lot more than you think.

>> > there are external ipod batteries, or find an airline with seat power,
>> > or upgrade to a cabin with power. do you really listen to 24 hours of
>>
>> Yes, I will upgrade to a $7000 ticket from a $1200 ticket so I can get a
>> power adapter. How financially responsible.
>
> there are far less expensive ways to upgrade, and you get a *much* more
> enjoyable flight than being stuck in coach.

Well, I would be more than willing to find out what they are.
From: Justin on 27 May 2010 22:45
nospam wrote on [Thu, 27 May 2010 12:38:09 -0700]:
> In article <htmfb1$sgc$12(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Justin
> <nospam(a)insightbb.com> wrote:
>
>> There are also *lots* of USB mini extenders on the market, which can
>> charge more than a single proprietary device.
>
> all of which can charge an ipod. your point is?

No, they can't

They have a mini usb male plug, to go into the device.
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