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From: John Navas on 20 Jul 2010 11:31
Samsung Electronics, the world�s No. 2 maker of mobile phones, finally
reacted to Apple�s claims on Friday that its Omnia II phone has
reception problems similar to the iPhone 4�s.

But Samsung may be pulling its punches because it�s also a crucial
supplier of Apple parts, including for iPhones.

According to media reports, Samsung�s U.S. branch released a statement
Monday (U.S. time) saying that �based on years of experience of
designing high-quality phones, Samsung mobile phones employ an internal
antenna design technology that optimizes reception quality for any type
of handgrip use.�

The company added that �it hasn�t received significant customer feedback
on any signal reduction issue for the Omnia II.� Some major mobile phone
makers blasted Apple following a press conference last week at which CEO
Steve Jobs defended the iPhone 4�s antenna and reception problems by
saying all smartphone manufacturers experience similar difficulties.

MORE: <http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2923497>
From: John Navas on 20 Jul 2010 11:45
Companies not receptive to Jobs' jabs

All smart phones aren't prone to iPhone 4's reception problems, Motorola
and others say

The biggest smart phone makers � Motorola, Research in Motion, HTC,
Nokia and Samsung � are crying foul over assertions by Apple Inc. Chief
Executive Steve Jobs that their devices also have antenna issues.

On Friday, Jobs said the rival phones have similar problems that have
beset its iPhone 4. In a video demonstration, Jobs detailed how the
competitors' phones also were prone to reception problems when held a
certain way.

"Apple's attempt to draw RIM into Apple's self-made debacle is
unacceptable," the BlackBerry maker said in a statement. "Apple's claims
about RIM products appear to be deliberate attempts to distort the
public's understanding of an antenna design issue and to deflect
attention from Apple's difficult situation."

On Sunday, Sanjay Jha, co-CEO of Schaumburg-based Motorola, said tests
by his company revealed that when touching the sensitive spot on the
iPhone 4's edge, the signal weakens far more than what occurs with other
smart phones.

....

Ken Dulaney, an analyst with IT research company Gartner Inc., said it's
understandable that Apple competitors would be upset and not want to be
dragged into the controversy. Complaints would have surfaced within the
first weeks of shipment if issues similar to the iPhone 4's were found
in other companies' devices, he said. "We didn't hear that."

RIM said in the statement that it avoided antenna designs found in the
iPhone 4 in its own products and pointed out that none of its
BlackBerrys need a case to assure optimal reception.

MORE:
<http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/ct-talk-iphone-antenna-motorola-0720-20100719,0,3537644.story>
From: nospam on 20 Jul 2010 12:09
In article <a7gb469f2u5irmvmmnnt72o32p5jl6mt0g(a)4ax.com>, John Navas
<spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:

> According to media reports, Samsung�s U.S. branch released a statement
> Monday (U.S. time) saying that �based on years of experience of
> designing high-quality phones, Samsung mobile phones employ an internal
> antenna design technology that optimizes reception quality for any type
> of handgrip use.�

not quite any.

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BolQ9o_-Q68>

> The company added that �it hasn�t received significant customer feedback
> on any signal reduction issue for the Omnia II.�

neither did apple. only 0.55% of calls to applecare were about the
antenna.
From: nospam on 20 Jul 2010 12:13
In article <51hb46p07b1b113oqstirpm8t99nm68rdc(a)4ax.com>, John Navas
<spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:

> Companies not receptive to Jobs' jabs

truth hurts

> "Apple's attempt to draw RIM into Apple's self-made debacle is
> unacceptable," the BlackBerry maker said in a statement. "Apple's claims
> about RIM products appear to be deliberate attempts to distort the
> public's understanding of an antenna design issue and to deflect
> attention from Apple's difficult situation."

or it's exactly correct, but the videos of crappy performance have been
pulled, possibly at the request of rim

<http://www.loopinsight.com/2010/07/19/videos-showing-blackberry-death-g
rip-removed-from-youtube/>

Unfortunately, BlackBerry users may have to use a case with the new
device, but since the videos are no longer available, you won�t be
able to see it in action.
From: Bob on 20 Jul 2010 12:49
On 20/07/2010 17:09, nospam wrote:
> In article<a7gb469f2u5irmvmmnnt72o32p5jl6mt0g(a)4ax.com>, John Navas
> <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>> According to media reports, Samsung�s U.S. branch released a statement
>> Monday (U.S. time) saying that �based on years of experience of
>> designing high-quality phones, Samsung mobile phones employ an internal
>> antenna design technology that optimizes reception quality for any type
>> of handgrip use.�
>
> not quite any.
>
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BolQ9o_-Q68>
>
>> The company added that �it hasn�t received significant customer feedback
>> on any signal reduction issue for the Omnia II.�
>
> neither did apple. only 0.55% of calls to applecare were about the
> antenna.
This is the 615th boring post in a long line of boring posts and I
couldn't care less who has the worst phone on the market. Several of the
places I go to work are not in 3g covered areas, where I live is not in
a 3g area, I have no need of a smartphone as it would be totally
unsuitable for work, the same applies to a netbook. I have 2 mobile
phones, different area coverage, for that strange thing called "VOICE"
and text and can quite easily manage with that. If people wish to
continue this boring thread can they start a new newsgroup and migrate
there.
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