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From: bert on 26 Feb 2010 08:54
On Feb 25, 9:09 pm, dlzc <dl...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> Dear BURT:
>
> On Feb 25, 4:44 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> ...
>
> > Have you ever went anywhere and it hasn't
> > ceased to be a "now?"
>
> Yes.  I went to sleep and dreamed of the future.
>
> David A. Smith

David Also good point. Dream is like our imagination,and I posted
"now" fits in with only are imagination. Reality is we live in the
past. "Now" has no arrow of time. TreBert
From: bert on 26 Feb 2010 08:58
On Feb 26, 1:08 am, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote:
> "BURT" <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:a3a5592b-fd2b-4c47-b3f4-0554916d75eb(a)a5g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Feb 25, 6:09 pm, dlzc <dl...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> >> Dear BURT:
>
> >> On Feb 25, 4:44 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> ...
>
> >> > Have you ever went anywhere and it hasn't
> >> > ceased to be a "now?"
>
> >> Yes.  I went to sleep and dreamed of the future.
>
> >> David A. Smith
>
> > When did you return?
>
> It is always 'now' .. so 'now' is a pretty useless concept.  Saying
> something happens 'now' is meaningless unless you have a time (and location)
> measurement and a framework in which to interpret it so as to work out at
> what time (and place) in space and time one was referring to when saying
> 'now'.  Often one can deduce that from context, of course.  Its simpler just
> to refer to the place and time directly .. especially when one is talking
> about physics :):)

Inertial Well put. That is my reason for posting "now' Its a three
letter word that is all fudge. TreBert
From: dlzc on 26 Feb 2010 14:58
Dear BURT:

On Feb 25, 10:29 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Feb 25, 6:09 pm,dlzc<dl...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> > On Feb 25, 4:44 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> > ...
>
> > > Have you ever went anywhere and it hasn't
> > > ceased to be a "now?"
>
> > Yes.  I went to sleep and dreamed of the future.
>
> When did you return?

As I stand here, I also stand in the future.

What is conincident in both cases is the "you".

David A. Smith
From: dlzc on 26 Feb 2010 15:01
Dear bert:

On Feb 26, 6:54 am, bert <herbertglazie...(a)msn.com> wrote:
> On Feb 25, 9:09 pm,dlzc<dl...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> > On Feb 25, 4:44 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> > ...
>
> > > Have you ever went anywhere and it hasn't
> > > ceased to be a "now?"
>
> > Yes.  I went to sleep and dreamed of the future.
>
> David Also good point. Dream is like our imagination,

In this case, I get specific information from the future. No lottery
numbers yet.

> and I posted "now" fits in with only are imagination.
> Reality is we live in the past. "Now" has no arrow of
> time.

If you are driving down the road at 60 mph, or sitting stationary by
the road, you are always "here". If you are moving, there is always a
direction, and it is clear which direction that is. There *is* an
arrow of time, because we are never at rest in time.

David A. Smith
From: BURT on 26 Feb 2010 16:22
On Feb 25, 10:08 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote:
> "BURT" <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:a3a5592b-fd2b-4c47-b3f4-0554916d75eb(a)a5g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Feb 25, 6:09 pm, dlzc <dl...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> >> Dear BURT:
>
> >> On Feb 25, 4:44 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> ...
>
> >> > Have you ever went anywhere and it hasn't
> >> > ceased to be a "now?"
>
> >> Yes.  I went to sleep and dreamed of the future.
>
> >> David A. Smith
>
> > When did you return?
>
> It is always 'now' .. so 'now' is a pretty useless concept.  Saying
> something happens 'now' is meaningless unless you have a time (and location)
> measurement and a framework in which to interpret it so as to work out at
> what time (and place) in space and time one was referring to when saying
> 'now'.  Often one can deduce that from context, of course.  Its simpler just
> to refer to the place and time directly .. especially when one is talking
> about physics :):)

Yes and there is always space since time takes "place" but we do not
ignore space.

Mitch Raemsch
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