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From: ddfc on 29 Jun 2010 04:24 tony sayer;213782 Wrote: > In article ddfc.66e6cc0(a)mobilebanter.co.uk, ddfc corbett.REMOVETHISch > ester(a)virgin.net scribeth thus- > > tony sayer;213762 Wrote: [color=green][i] > In article i08jr1$eq5$1(a)news.eternal-september.org, Steve Terry > > > For North Wales, Voda is generally best but Orange ain't far behind. In > any event warn them they might have to drive to the top of a hill to > get > a signal - and there's a few hills in Wales! (and don't mention the > football!) > > ddfc- > > I thought that one of the good things about North Wales was to get away > from bl^^dy ringing mobile fones;!... > > [color=blue][i] > > Dead right - but don't tell my boss! The best excuse I've ever had yet > its(mostly) genuine. -- ddfc
From: JL on 29 Jun 2010 09:08 On 28 June, 07:30, "Woody" <harroga...(a)ntlworld.spam.com> wrote: > "Steve Terry" <gfour...(a)tesco.net> wrote in message > > news:i08jr1$eq5$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > > > > "JL" <newsacco...(a)mail2web.com> wrote in message > >news:b6d74ac5-9cc5-46de-a749-3a13aa66054a(a)i31g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... > >> Some friends of mine are coming over from France and want a UK > >> PAYG > >> SIM to put in their 2G phone for the time they're here. Easy > >> enough > >> for me as I can order one free and send out to them. > > >> Originally I had thought I'd send a Voda SIM. They'll be > >> travelling > >> around the UK for a month, towns, country, national parks etc. > >> and I > >> thought the Voda coverage would be best. > >> However, looking at the coverage maps and sitefinder website > >> for > >> different areas there seem to be more O2 and Orange masts > >> placed in > >> rural places. More often than not, if only one provider worked > >> in an > >> rural area, it appeared to be Orange. I have an Orange phone > >> and > >> wouldn't say coverage was superb but even in my area the > >> sitefinder > >> website shows many more Orange masts in general?? > > >> So...although it depends on location, should I pick an Orange > >> SIM to > >> send them instead? I'm looking for the best for the UK as a > >> whole. > >> Cost is relatively unimportant. > >> TIA > > > Send them an Lycamobile 075 (Orange network) sim > > cheaper than Orange for UK calls (10p UK Mobile, 5p UK > > landines, > > (and 15p French mobile and 4p French landline,) > > > Lycamobile automated Customer Service info can be switched to > > French. > > > Unlike Orange they'are pre-registered ready to go. > > > Not so easy to find now Lycamobile Plus have moved to 074 O2 > > network, but this dealer has them: > >http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Lycamobile-UK-Sim-Card-Cheap-International-Call... > > > Don't expect Lycamobile to honour the 2 registration bonus > > > Lycamobile top ups can be bought from almost all supermarkets > > > "The Futures bright, the Future's Lycamobile" (at least until > > the 075 sims run out) > > > Steve Terry > > -- > > Welcome Sign-up Bonus of 1 when you signup free at: > >http://www.topcashback.co.uk/ref/G4WWK > > Interesting original and comment. > > Generally speaking Orange has its problems especially in handoff. > It also has many serious holes in coverage - Yorkshire for one! > > Having been on both O2 and Voda in the past I would always go for > Voda as O2 is prone to dropping calls for no apparent reason. > Having said that O2 coverage away from urban areas has always > been some of the best, with Orange close behind. > > We've just been in Northumbria for a week and had coverage in > outlying areas with Orange where there was none with O2 or Voda. > > On balance I would suggest to the OP that they get an Asda SIM as > their calls are some of the cheapest (8p landline/mobile, 4p > text) and are on the Voda network. Most of their rural and much > of their urban coverage is at 900MHz and higher power so tends to > have less holes than the 1800MHz or 3G systems. > > -- > Woody > > harrogate three at ntlworld dot com Sorry if it's a dull question but what exactly is a hand off problem? Where one cell doesnt hand over to the next very well? Does this happen as there are not enough overlapping Orange cells, or is is more of a base-station software thing? I have also noticed O2 dropping calls randomly - despite having good signal. Regarding another issue I have with my Orange phone - seems an appropriate place to ask: I usually have 1-2 out of 7 bars of 2G signal whilst sitting in my living room but callers usually can't here me at all, or their voice will break up a bit. Also, the call will suddenly drop even though the signal hasn't completely gone. When I insert a Vodafone SIM I have even less signal, usually 0 or 1 bar but calls are nearly always perfect quality and without interuption. What's my problem here? Even though I seem to have a signal this annoyance renders the phone almost unusable.
From: JL on 29 Jun 2010 09:13 On 27 June, 23:37, "Steve Terry" <gfour...(a)tesco.net> wrote: > "JL" <newsacco...(a)mail2web.com> wrote in message > > news:b6d74ac5-9cc5-46de-a749-3a13aa66054a(a)i31g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... > > > Some friends of mine are coming over from France and want a UK PAYG > > SIM to put in their 2G phone for the time they're here. Easy enough > > for me as I can order one free and send out to them. > > > Originally I had thought I'd send a Voda SIM. They'll be travelling > > around the UK for a month, towns, country, national parks etc. and I > > thought the Voda coverage would be best. > > However, looking at the coverage maps and sitefinder website for > > different areas there seem to be more O2 and Orange masts placed in > > rural places. More often than not, if only one provider worked in an > > rural area, it appeared to be Orange. I have an Orange phone and > > wouldn't say coverage was superb but even in my area the sitefinder > > website shows many more Orange masts in general?? > > > So...although it depends on location, should I pick an Orange SIM to > > send them instead? I'm looking for the best for the UK as a whole. > > Cost is relatively unimportant. > > TIA > > Send them an Lycamobile 075 (Orange network) sim > cheaper than Orange for UK calls (10p UK Mobile, 5p UK landines, > (and 15p French mobile and 4p French landline,) > > Lycamobile automated Customer Service info can be switched to > French. > > Unlike Orange they'are pre-registered ready to go. > > Not so easy to find now Lycamobile Plus have moved to 074 O2 > network, but this dealer has them:http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Lycamobile-UK-Sim-Card-Cheap-International-Call... > > Don't expect Lycamobile to honour the £2 registration bonus > > Lycamobile top ups can be bought from almost all supermarkets > > "The Futures bright, the Future's Lycamobile" (at least until the 075 sims > run out) > > Steve Terry > -- > Welcome Sign-up Bonus of £1 when you signup free at:http://www.topcashback.co.uk/ref/G4WWK What exactly is the difference between the ones on eBay compared to the Lycamobile Plus ones available free on the website? Is it just the numbers allocated to them making it different costs to call them? They seem to want people to upgrade their old SIM to a new one.
From: Woody on 29 Jun 2010 15:06 "JL" <newsaccount(a)mail2web.com> wrote in message news:f8973e13-16a4-46c3-93ac-64ed453baf9a(a)c10g2000yqi.googlegroups.com... > On 28 June, 07:30, "Woody" <harroga...(a)ntlworld.spam.com> > wrote: >> "Steve Terry" <gfour...(a)tesco.net> wrote in message >> >> news:i08jr1$eq5$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> >> >> >> > "JL" <newsacco...(a)mail2web.com> wrote in message >> >news:b6d74ac5-9cc5-46de-a749-3a13aa66054a(a)i31g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... >> >> Some friends of mine are coming over from France and want a >> >> UK >> >> PAYG >> >> SIM to put in their 2G phone for the time they're here. >> >> Easy >> >> enough >> >> for me as I can order one free and send out to them. >> >> >> Originally I had thought I'd send a Voda SIM. They'll be >> >> travelling >> >> around the UK for a month, towns, country, national parks >> >> etc. >> >> and I >> >> thought the Voda coverage would be best. >> >> However, looking at the coverage maps and sitefinder >> >> website >> >> for >> >> different areas there seem to be more O2 and Orange masts >> >> placed in >> >> rural places. More often than not, if only one provider >> >> worked >> >> in an >> >> rural area, it appeared to be Orange. I have an Orange >> >> phone >> >> and >> >> wouldn't say coverage was superb but even in my area the >> >> sitefinder >> >> website shows many more Orange masts in general?? >> >> >> So...although it depends on location, should I pick an >> >> Orange >> >> SIM to >> >> send them instead? I'm looking for the best for the UK as a >> >> whole. >> >> Cost is relatively unimportant. >> >> TIA >> >> > Send them an Lycamobile 075 (Orange network) sim >> > cheaper than Orange for UK calls (10p UK Mobile, 5p UK >> > landines, >> > (and 15p French mobile and 4p French landline,) >> >> > Lycamobile automated Customer Service info can be switched >> > to >> > French. >> >> > Unlike Orange they'are pre-registered ready to go. >> >> > Not so easy to find now Lycamobile Plus have moved to 074 O2 >> > network, but this dealer has them: >> >http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Lycamobile-UK-Sim-Card-Cheap-International-Call... >> >> > Don't expect Lycamobile to honour the 2 registration bonus >> >> > Lycamobile top ups can be bought from almost all >> > supermarkets >> >> > "The Futures bright, the Future's Lycamobile" (at least >> > until >> > the 075 sims run out) >> >> > Steve Terry >> > -- >> > Welcome Sign-up Bonus of 1 when you signup free at: >> >http://www.topcashback.co.uk/ref/G4WWK >> >> Interesting original and comment. >> >> Generally speaking Orange has its problems especially in >> handoff. >> It also has many serious holes in coverage - Yorkshire for >> one! >> >> Having been on both O2 and Voda in the past I would always go >> for >> Voda as O2 is prone to dropping calls for no apparent reason. >> Having said that O2 coverage away from urban areas has always >> been some of the best, with Orange close behind. >> >> We've just been in Northumbria for a week and had coverage in >> outlying areas with Orange where there was none with O2 or >> Voda. >> >> On balance I would suggest to the OP that they get an Asda SIM >> as >> their calls are some of the cheapest (8p landline/mobile, 4p >> text) and are on the Voda network. Most of their rural and >> much >> of their urban coverage is at 900MHz and higher power so tends >> to >> have less holes than the 1800MHz or 3G systems. >> >> -- >> Woody >> >> harrogate three at ntlworld dot com > > Sorry if it's a dull question but what exactly is a hand off > problem? > Where one cell doesnt hand over to the next very well? Does > this > happen as there are not enough overlapping Orange cells, or is > is more > of a base-station software thing? > > I have also noticed O2 dropping calls randomly - despite having > good > signal. > > Regarding another issue I have with my Orange phone - seems an > appropriate place to ask: > > I usually have 1-2 out of 7 bars of 2G signal whilst sitting in > my > living room but callers usually can't here me at all, or their > voice > will break up a bit. Also, the call will suddenly drop even > though > the signal hasn't completely gone. > When I insert a Vodafone SIM I have even less signal, usually 0 > or 1 > bar but calls are nearly always perfect quality and without > interuption. > What's my problem here? Even though I seem to have a signal > this > annoyance renders the phone almost unusable. > Handoff is where the system hands your call in progress from one base station site to another as you move - seemlessly we hope. Orange software is set such that it will hang on to your signal on one site until it will (realistically) work no longer, then try to hand it to the 'next' cell only for there to be no resources available, so the call is lost. As Voda does not seem to suffer from this in the same way it suggests that they have more channels and thus more timeslots available per site so there is no need to hang on to the call until grim death. When we were on O2 (Cellnet as it was then) I often came to the conclusion that in the handoff process the channel on the next site was using directional aerials and was putting the call out in the wrong direction, hence again call lost. When on line remember that a base station usually radiates considerably greater power than your handset ever can (non-reciprocity it's called) which means that your phone may see a viable signal but it cannot present a viable signal at the base station receiver. Hence the system hails your mobile but apparently gets no response so sends the call to voicemail. It is also likely that Voda is working at 900MHz where Orange is on 1800MHz. There is more loss at 1800MHz than there is at 900MHz, hence why Voda may work where Orange does not. -- Woody harrogate three at ntlworld dot com
From: Steve Terry on 29 Jun 2010 18:33
"JL" <newsaccount(a)mail2web.com> wrote in message news:0bf26dcf-02e0-43a1-b76d-4ce6f28db54b(a)d37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... On 27 June, 23:37, "Steve Terry" <gfour...(a)tesco.net> wrote: > "JL" <newsacco...(a)mail2web.com> wrote in message > news:b6d74ac5-9cc5-46de-a749-3a13aa66054a(a)i31g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... <snip> >What exactly is the difference between the ones on eBay compared to >the Lycamobile Plus ones available free on the website? Is it just >the numbers allocated to them making it different costs to call them? >They seem to want people to upgrade their old SIM to a new one. > > 075 number ones are on Orange and are old stock 074 plus are on O2 and offer cheaper rates. Lycamobile want their 075 Orange users to move to 074 on O2 Steve Terry -- Welcome Sign-up Bonus of �1 when you signup free at: http://www.topcashback.co.uk/ref/G4WWK |