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From: Theo Markettos on 30 Jun 2010 05:55 Steve Terry <gfourwwk(a)tesco.net> wrote: > 075 number ones are on Orange and are old stock > 074 plus are on O2 and offer cheaper rates. > > Lycamobile want their 075 Orange users to move to 074 on O2 Is there any benefit to the Orange ones other than use in areas where O2 has no signal, and in phones locked to Orange? Theo
From: Steve Terry on 1 Jul 2010 20:28 "Theo Markettos" <theom+news(a)chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote in message news:cAw*LuSct(a)news.chiark.greenend.org.uk... > Steve Terry <gfourwwk(a)tesco.net> wrote: >> 075 number ones are on Orange and are old stock >> 074 plus are on O2 and offer cheaper rates. >> >> Lycamobile want their 075 Orange users to move to 074 on O2 > > Is there any benefit to the Orange ones other than use in areas where O2 > has no signal, and in phones locked to Orange? > Theo > > Orange ones have free Voicemail, not sure if the new Plus on O2 do? I would only recommend Lycamobile 075 as an alterative to Orange PAYG tariffs for those who need Orange coverage. Steve Terry -- Welcome Sign-up Bonus of �1 when you signup free at: http://www.topcashback.co.uk/ref/G4WWK
From: Jon Pitts on 2 Jul 2010 06:11 "Woody" <harrogate3(a)ntlworld.spam.com> wrote in message news:TurWn.59557$NW.37440(a)hurricane... > Handoff is where the system hands your call in progress from one base > station site to another as you move - seemlessly we hope. Correct. > > Orange software is set such that it will hang on to your signal on one > site until it will (realistically) work no longer, then try to hand it to > the 'next' cell only for there to be no resources available, so the call > is lost. Nonsense. On what do you base this claim, because I can assure you this is not how Orange 2G handovers work. I'm not familiar enough with 3G-2G handover parameters, but the network is certainly not going to keep you on one cell "at all costs" when one such cost is a dropped call. The handover will always be preferred to a dropped call. > > When we were on O2 (Cellnet as it was then) I often came to the conclusion > that in the handoff process the channel on the next site was using > directional aerials and was putting the call out in the wrong direction, > hence again call lost. Not sure where to start with this. The handover parameters have nothing to do with whether a given sector has a directional antenna or omni. Many sites have both! Regards Jon.
From: tony sayer on 2 Jul 2010 08:21 In article <ouKdncGwhuk7JrDRnZ2dnUVZ7q-dnZ2d(a)giganews.com>, Jon Pitts <usenet(a)pitts50.co.uk> scribeth thus > >"Woody" <harrogate3(a)ntlworld.spam.com> wrote in message >news:TurWn.59557$NW.37440(a)hurricane... >> Handoff is where the system hands your call in progress from one base >> station site to another as you move - seemlessly we hope. > >Correct. > >> >> Orange software is set such that it will hang on to your signal on one >> site until it will (realistically) work no longer, then try to hand it to >> the 'next' cell only for there to be no resources available, so the call >> is lost. > >Nonsense. On what do you base this claim, because I can assure you this is >not how Orange 2G handovers work. I'm not familiar enough with 3G-2G >handover parameters, but the network is certainly not going to keep you on >one cell "at all costs" when one such cost is a dropped call. The handover >will always be preferred to a dropped call. > Well "what if" that base station is at full capacity, and there is no other available?.. >> >> When we were on O2 (Cellnet as it was then) I often came to the conclusion >> that in the handoff process the channel on the next site was using >> directional aerials and was putting the call out in the wrong direction, >> hence again call lost. > >Not sure where to start with this. The handover parameters have nothing to >do with whether a given sector has a directional antenna or omni. Many sites >have both! > >Regards > >Jon. > > -- Tony Sayer
From: alexd on 4 Jul 2010 14:04
Meanwhile, at the uk.telecom.mobile Job Justification Hearings, tony sayer chose the tried and tested strategy of: > Well "what if" that base station is at full capacity, and there is no > other available?.. What do you think? [Clue: the base station isn't going to sprout wheels and follow the unfortunate caller. Apparently that's a feature planned for 5G]. -- <http://ale.cx/> (AIM:troffasky) (UnSoEsNpEaTm(a)ale.cx) 19:02:47 up 8 days, 6:31, 6 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.12 Qua illic est accuso, illic est a vindicatum |