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From: Benjamin Gawert on 4 Feb 2010 17:50
* Metspitzer:
> I have a mobo similar to this one.
> http://reviews.cnet.com/motherboards/supermicro-super-p4sct-ii/4505-3049_7-30870632.html
> I still have the box the mobo came in and I googled the number on the
> box. My mobo looks almost exactly the same only I don't have a green
> colored expansion slot. It has 2 PCI slots, 3 PCIx slots and an AGP
> slot.

So no PCIe (PCI Express)

Btw: it's "PCI-X", not "PCIx"

> Should I get another AGP card or a PCIx. Would either one carry over
> to a new mobo upgrade in the future?

There are no PCI-X graphics cards except for some really ancient, slow
and expensive Matrox thingie which performs worse than your old Geforce
6600), so the answer is quite simple: AGP. However, since AGP is dead
for almost half a decade now nothing you buy for this old board will
carry over to a new mainboard.

I would not sink much money into this. Get a cheap second hand card
(i.e. a Geforce 7 or Radeon X1900 for a few quids).

Benjamin
From: Metspitzer on 4 Feb 2010 18:07
On Thu, 04 Feb 2010 04:17:09 -0500, Paul <nospam(a)needed.com> wrote:

>Metspitzer wrote:
>> On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 20:05:34 -0800, Mike Easter <MikeE(a)ster.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Metspitzer wrote:
>>>> I have a mobo similar to this one.
>>>> http://reviews.cnet.com/motherboards/supermicro-super-p4sct-ii/4505-3049_7-30870632.html
>>>> I still have the box the mobo came in and I googled the number on the
>>>> box. My mobo looks almost exactly the same only I don't have a green
>>>> colored expansion slot. It has 2 PCI slots, 3 PCIx slots and an AGP
>>>> slot.
>>>>
>>>> I had a Nvidia 6800 AGP video card in it. I guess the card died. I
>>>> was watching a movie and the HDTV screen and the desk monitor both
>>>> displayed a green fuzz screen. Also, an alarm sounded. It was a
>>>> steady squeal.
>>>>
>>>> I shut the computer down. I tried turning it on again and got the
>>>> alarm again. So I shut it off and pulled the card out.
>>>>
>>>> Should I get another AGP card or a PCIx. Would either one carry over
>>>> to a new mobo upgrade in the future?
>>> Your report doesn't say whether or not you reconfigured to use the
>>> onboard VGA to see if your mobo is OK. That is, you report lost video
>>> and alarm and you report removing the AGP video card, but you don't
>>> report reconfiguring the jumper to use the onboard VGA and demonstrating
>>> that your system is operational without the AGP card video.
>>
>> Yeah it works. I can be very vague sometimes. I am using the onboard
>> video, but I want to hook an HDMI cable to the TV so I have to get
>> another card for this.
>>
>
>I'd use an AGP card. PCI-X video cards are expensive, and Matrox
>may be the only company making them. I'm much sooner have an AGP
>one, because AGP 8X has 2100MB/sec bandwidth for texture transfer.
>ATI is the only company actively making AGP bridged designs (and may be
>getting near to stopping that).
>
>Before buying an AGP card, read the reviews and make
>sure that working drivers are available for it. Some
>AGP cards now, have only one working set of drivers.
>The driver situation is what makes purchasing one a
>dicey proposition.
>
>http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16814125281
>
> "Cons: hdmi audio driver took me a while to find but still had it
> up and running in about an hour."
>
>The latest ATI cards can do audio over HDMI, without an SPDIF cable.
>It's just a matter of figuring out what driver to use. At least
>one card, didn't seem to be listed in the driver package I downloaded,
>so, yes, there is still room for nasty surprises.
>
> Paul

Thanks Paul

AGP it is then.

From: Metspitzer on 4 Feb 2010 18:48
On Thu, 04 Feb 2010 22:50:42 +0000, Benjamin Gawert <bgawert(a)gmx.de>
wrote:

>* Metspitzer:
>> I have a mobo similar to this one.
>> http://reviews.cnet.com/motherboards/supermicro-super-p4sct-ii/4505-3049_7-30870632.html
>> I still have the box the mobo came in and I googled the number on the
>> box. My mobo looks almost exactly the same only I don't have a green
>> colored expansion slot. It has 2 PCI slots, 3 PCIx slots and an AGP
>> slot.
>
>So no PCIe (PCI Express)
>
>Btw: it's "PCI-X", not "PCIx"
>
>> Should I get another AGP card or a PCIx. Would either one carry over
>> to a new mobo upgrade in the future?
>
>There are no PCI-X graphics cards except for some really ancient, slow
>and expensive Matrox thingie which performs worse than your old Geforce
>6600), so the answer is quite simple: AGP. However, since AGP is dead
>for almost half a decade now nothing you buy for this old board will
>carry over to a new mainboard.
>
>I would not sink much money into this. Get a cheap second hand card
>(i.e. a Geforce 7 or Radeon X1900 for a few quids).
>
>Benjamin

Well, that was going to be my next question. After you guys cut my
choices in half, I still have too many to pick from.

I don't really keep up with computer technology, but when I upgrade, I
do try to buy near the top. The card that was in it was a 6800GT so
the Geforce 7 seems right.

Thanks
From: Metspitzer on 5 Feb 2010 20:43
On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 20:39:59 -0500, Metspitzer <kilowatt(a)charter.net>
wrote:

>I have a mobo similar to this one.
>http://reviews.cnet.com/motherboards/supermicro-super-p4sct-ii/4505-3049_7-30870632.html
>I still have the box the mobo came in and I googled the number on the
>box. My mobo looks almost exactly the same only I don't have a green
>colored expansion slot. It has 2 PCI slots, 3 PCIx slots and an AGP
>slot.
>
>I had a Nvidia 6800 AGP video card in it. I guess the card died. I
>was watching a movie and the HDTV screen and the desk monitor both
>displayed a green fuzz screen. Also, an alarm sounded. It was a
>steady squeal.
>
>I shut the computer down. I tried turning it on again and got the
>alarm again. So I shut it off and pulled the card out.
>
>Should I get another AGP card or a PCIx. Would either one carry over
>to a new mobo upgrade in the future?

Ok. Here is my pick.
http://www.amazon.com/Axle3D-Nvidia-GeForce-256-Bit-S-Video/dp/B002Q62VYO/ref=sr_1_19?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1265419240&sr=1-19

My specs are
3.2 GHz
1 Gig ram
800 MHz FSB
Dual-DDR 400

My old card was a FXF GeForce GF 6800GT 256MB DDDR3 Dual DVI TV.

Is the new card better? I paid at least 300 for the old card. The
new card is 120.


From: Paul on 6 Feb 2010 15:29
Metspitzer wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 20:39:59 -0500, Metspitzer <kilowatt(a)charter.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I have a mobo similar to this one.
>> http://reviews.cnet.com/motherboards/supermicro-super-p4sct-ii/4505-3049_7-30870632.html
>> I still have the box the mobo came in and I googled the number on the
>> box. My mobo looks almost exactly the same only I don't have a green
>> colored expansion slot. It has 2 PCI slots, 3 PCIx slots and an AGP
>> slot.
>>
>> I had a Nvidia 6800 AGP video card in it. I guess the card died. I
>> was watching a movie and the HDTV screen and the desk monitor both
>> displayed a green fuzz screen. Also, an alarm sounded. It was a
>> steady squeal.
>>
>> I shut the computer down. I tried turning it on again and got the
>> alarm again. So I shut it off and pulled the card out.
>>
>> Should I get another AGP card or a PCIx. Would either one carry over
>> to a new mobo upgrade in the future?
>
> Ok.
>
> Axle3D Nvidia GeForce 7950 GT 512MB DDR3 256-Bit DVI + VGA + HDTV / S-Video AGP 8x Video Card
> http://www.amazon.com/Axle3D-Nvidia-GeForce-256-Bit-S-Video/dp/B002Q62VYO/ref=sr_1_19?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1265419240&sr=1-19
>
> My specs are
> 3.2 GHz
> 1 Gig ram
> 800 MHz FSB
> Dual-DDR 400
>
> My old card was a FXF GeForce GF 6800GT 256MB DDDR3 Dual DVI TV.
>
> Is the new card better? I paid at least 300 for the old card. The
> new card is 120.
>

If you pick the right year of the Tomshardware charts, you may be
able to compare them that way.

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-charts-q3-2008/Call-of-Duty-4-v1.6,741.html

6800 GT 14.6
7950 GT 33.1

I've never heard of "Axle3D" before. Do you get a warranty ?

Paul

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