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From: Metspitzer on 6 Feb 2010 19:23
On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 15:29:40 -0500, Paul <nospam(a)needed.com> wrote:

>Metspitzer wrote:
>> On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 20:39:59 -0500, Metspitzer <kilowatt(a)charter.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a mobo similar to this one.
>>> http://reviews.cnet.com/motherboards/supermicro-super-p4sct-ii/4505-3049_7-30870632.html
>>> I still have the box the mobo came in and I googled the number on the
>>> box. My mobo looks almost exactly the same only I don't have a green
>>> colored expansion slot. It has 2 PCI slots, 3 PCIx slots and an AGP
>>> slot.
>>>
>>> I had a Nvidia 6800 AGP video card in it. I guess the card died. I
>>> was watching a movie and the HDTV screen and the desk monitor both
>>> displayed a green fuzz screen. Also, an alarm sounded. It was a
>>> steady squeal.
>>>
>>> I shut the computer down. I tried turning it on again and got the
>>> alarm again. So I shut it off and pulled the card out.
>>>
>>> Should I get another AGP card or a PCIx. Would either one carry over
>>> to a new mobo upgrade in the future?
>>
>> Ok.
>>
>> Axle3D Nvidia GeForce 7950 GT 512MB DDR3 256-Bit DVI + VGA + HDTV / S-Video AGP 8x Video Card
>> http://www.amazon.com/Axle3D-Nvidia-GeForce-256-Bit-S-Video/dp/B002Q62VYO/ref=sr_1_19?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1265419240&sr=1-19
>>
>> My specs are
>> 3.2 GHz
>> 1 Gig ram
>> 800 MHz FSB
>> Dual-DDR 400
>>
>> My old card was a FXF GeForce GF 6800GT 256MB DDDR3 Dual DVI TV.
>>
>> Is the new card better? I paid at least 300 for the old card. The
>> new card is 120.
>>
>
>If you pick the right year of the Tomshardware charts, you may be
>able to compare them that way.
>
>http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-charts-q3-2008/Call-of-Duty-4-v1.6,741.html
>
> 6800 GT 14.6
> 7950 GT 33.1
>
>I've never heard of "Axle3D" before. Do you get a warranty ?
>
> Paul

I just called Microcenter. They have a bfg 7600GS 512 for 80 bucks.
It is over an hours drive to get there, but they have some pretty good
places to eat around, so I will probably get this one.

It has a years warranty.

I really value your advice.

Thanks
From: John Doe on 6 Feb 2010 19:48
Paul <nospam(a)needed.com> wrote:

> 7950 GT

I have that (512 MB), apparently still going strong.
From: Paul on 6 Feb 2010 21:53
Metspitzer wrote:
> On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 15:29:40 -0500, Paul <nospam(a)needed.com> wrote:
>
>> Metspitzer wrote:
>>> On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 20:39:59 -0500, Metspitzer <kilowatt(a)charter.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have a mobo similar to this one.
>>>> http://reviews.cnet.com/motherboards/supermicro-super-p4sct-ii/4505-3049_7-30870632.html
>>>> I still have the box the mobo came in and I googled the number on the
>>>> box. My mobo looks almost exactly the same only I don't have a green
>>>> colored expansion slot. It has 2 PCI slots, 3 PCIx slots and an AGP
>>>> slot.
>>>>
>>>> I had a Nvidia 6800 AGP video card in it. I guess the card died. I
>>>> was watching a movie and the HDTV screen and the desk monitor both
>>>> displayed a green fuzz screen. Also, an alarm sounded. It was a
>>>> steady squeal.
>>>>
>>>> I shut the computer down. I tried turning it on again and got the
>>>> alarm again. So I shut it off and pulled the card out.
>>>>
>>>> Should I get another AGP card or a PCIx. Would either one carry over
>>>> to a new mobo upgrade in the future?
>>> Ok.
>>>
>>> Axle3D Nvidia GeForce 7950 GT 512MB DDR3 256-Bit DVI + VGA + HDTV / S-Video AGP 8x Video Card
>>> http://www.amazon.com/Axle3D-Nvidia-GeForce-256-Bit-S-Video/dp/B002Q62VYO/ref=sr_1_19?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1265419240&sr=1-19
>>>
>>> My specs are
>>> 3.2 GHz
>>> 1 Gig ram
>>> 800 MHz FSB
>>> Dual-DDR 400
>>>
>>> My old card was a FXF GeForce GF 6800GT 256MB DDDR3 Dual DVI TV.
>>>
>>> Is the new card better? I paid at least 300 for the old card. The
>>> new card is 120.
>>>
>> If you pick the right year of the Tomshardware charts, you may be
>> able to compare them that way.
>>
>> http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-charts-q3-2008/Call-of-Duty-4-v1.6,741.html
>>
>> 6800 GT 14.6
>> 7950 GT 33.1
>>
>> I've never heard of "Axle3D" before. Do you get a warranty ?
>>
>> Paul
>
> I just called Microcenter. They have a bfg 7600GS 512 for 80 bucks.
> It is over an hours drive to get there, but they have some pretty good
> places to eat around, so I will probably get this one.
>
> It has a years warranty.
>
> I really value your advice.
>
> Thanks

7600 GS is in that chart as well. On the benchmark I happened to select,
it rates 13.9, so it is a bit weaker than your 6800 GT.

If you have a sense of humor, check this out. Newegg still carries a 6800 GT :-)
I'm beginning to wonder if that is a real item or not... It's a good
price.

BFG Tech BFGR68256GTOC GeForce 6800GT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 AGP 4X/8X Video Card - Retail $30

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814143019

It that item really isn't for sale any more, the 7600 GS is better than nothing.

It doesn't sound like you're a fan of ATI, but if you were, there are
ATI AGP cards still for sale. I listed them by rating, and this set
of comments is for an HD 3850. This isn't the newest ATI card you can
buy, but perhaps the driver situation will be a bit better with this
one. At least you can find enough comments here, to see what kind
of problems people have had with it. On the Tomshardware benchmark,
this one got about 83. So as long as your processor is not a limitation,
this would be faster than your old 6800 GT.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16814102730

Paul


From: Metspitzer on 6 Feb 2010 23:03
On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 21:53:08 -0500, Paul <nospam(a)needed.com> wrote:

>Metspitzer wrote:
>> On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 15:29:40 -0500, Paul <nospam(a)needed.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Metspitzer wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 20:39:59 -0500, Metspitzer <kilowatt(a)charter.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have a mobo similar to this one.
>>>>> http://reviews.cnet.com/motherboards/supermicro-super-p4sct-ii/4505-3049_7-30870632.html
>>>>> I still have the box the mobo came in and I googled the number on the
>>>>> box. My mobo looks almost exactly the same only I don't have a green
>>>>> colored expansion slot. It has 2 PCI slots, 3 PCIx slots and an AGP
>>>>> slot.
>>>>>
>>>>> I had a Nvidia 6800 AGP video card in it. I guess the card died. I
>>>>> was watching a movie and the HDTV screen and the desk monitor both
>>>>> displayed a green fuzz screen. Also, an alarm sounded. It was a
>>>>> steady squeal.
>>>>>
>>>>> I shut the computer down. I tried turning it on again and got the
>>>>> alarm again. So I shut it off and pulled the card out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Should I get another AGP card or a PCIx. Would either one carry over
>>>>> to a new mobo upgrade in the future?
>>>> Ok.
>>>>
>>>> Axle3D Nvidia GeForce 7950 GT 512MB DDR3 256-Bit DVI + VGA + HDTV / S-Video AGP 8x Video Card
>>>> http://www.amazon.com/Axle3D-Nvidia-GeForce-256-Bit-S-Video/dp/B002Q62VYO/ref=sr_1_19?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1265419240&sr=1-19
>>>>
>>>> My specs are
>>>> 3.2 GHz
>>>> 1 Gig ram
>>>> 800 MHz FSB
>>>> Dual-DDR 400
>>>>
>>>> My old card was a FXF GeForce GF 6800GT 256MB DDDR3 Dual DVI TV.
>>>>
>>>> Is the new card better? I paid at least 300 for the old card. The
>>>> new card is 120.
>>>>
>>> If you pick the right year of the Tomshardware charts, you may be
>>> able to compare them that way.
>>>
>>> http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-charts-q3-2008/Call-of-Duty-4-v1.6,741.html
>>>
>>> 6800 GT 14.6
>>> 7950 GT 33.1
>>>
>>> I've never heard of "Axle3D" before. Do you get a warranty ?
>>>
>>> Paul
>>
>> I just called Microcenter. They have a bfg 7600GS 512 for 80 bucks.
>> It is over an hours drive to get there, but they have some pretty good
>> places to eat around, so I will probably get this one.
>>
>> It has a years warranty.
>>
>> I really value your advice.
>>
>> Thanks
>
>7600 GS is in that chart as well. On the benchmark I happened to select,
>it rates 13.9, so it is a bit weaker than your 6800 GT.
>
>If you have a sense of humor, check this out. Newegg still carries a 6800 GT :-)
>I'm beginning to wonder if that is a real item or not... It's a good
>price.
>
>BFG Tech BFGR68256GTOC GeForce 6800GT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 AGP 4X/8X Video Card - Retail $30
>
>http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814143019
>
>It that item really isn't for sale any more, the 7600 GS is better than nothing.
>
>It doesn't sound like you're a fan of ATI, but if you were, there are
>ATI AGP cards still for sale. I listed them by rating, and this set
>of comments is for an HD 3850. This isn't the newest ATI card you can
>buy, but perhaps the driver situation will be a bit better with this
>one. At least you can find enough comments here, to see what kind
>of problems people have had with it. On the Tomshardware benchmark,
>this one got about 83. So as long as your processor is not a limitation,
>this would be faster than your old 6800 GT.
>
>http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16814102730
>
> Paul
>

That was what I was waiting to do. Make you put your finger on one.
:)

I see all those numbers so close together, and it makes me want to
pass out.

Thanks
From: Metspitzer on 6 Feb 2010 23:06
On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 21:53:08 -0500, Paul <nospam(a)needed.com> wrote:

>Metspitzer wrote:
>> On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 15:29:40 -0500, Paul <nospam(a)needed.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Metspitzer wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 20:39:59 -0500, Metspitzer <kilowatt(a)charter.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have a mobo similar to this one.
>>>>> http://reviews.cnet.com/motherboards/supermicro-super-p4sct-ii/4505-3049_7-30870632.html
>>>>> I still have the box the mobo came in and I googled the number on the
>>>>> box. My mobo looks almost exactly the same only I don't have a green
>>>>> colored expansion slot. It has 2 PCI slots, 3 PCIx slots and an AGP
>>>>> slot.
>>>>>
>>>>> I had a Nvidia 6800 AGP video card in it. I guess the card died. I
>>>>> was watching a movie and the HDTV screen and the desk monitor both
>>>>> displayed a green fuzz screen. Also, an alarm sounded. It was a
>>>>> steady squeal.
>>>>>
>>>>> I shut the computer down. I tried turning it on again and got the
>>>>> alarm again. So I shut it off and pulled the card out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Should I get another AGP card or a PCIx. Would either one carry over
>>>>> to a new mobo upgrade in the future?
>>>> Ok.
>>>>
>>>> Axle3D Nvidia GeForce 7950 GT 512MB DDR3 256-Bit DVI + VGA + HDTV / S-Video AGP 8x Video Card
>>>> http://www.amazon.com/Axle3D-Nvidia-GeForce-256-Bit-S-Video/dp/B002Q62VYO/ref=sr_1_19?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1265419240&sr=1-19
>>>>
>>>> My specs are
>>>> 3.2 GHz
>>>> 1 Gig ram
>>>> 800 MHz FSB
>>>> Dual-DDR 400
>>>>
>>>> My old card was a FXF GeForce GF 6800GT 256MB DDDR3 Dual DVI TV.
>>>>
>>>> Is the new card better? I paid at least 300 for the old card. The
>>>> new card is 120.
>>>>
>>> If you pick the right year of the Tomshardware charts, you may be
>>> able to compare them that way.
>>>
>>> http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-charts-q3-2008/Call-of-Duty-4-v1.6,741.html
>>>
>>> 6800 GT 14.6
>>> 7950 GT 33.1
>>>
>>> I've never heard of "Axle3D" before. Do you get a warranty ?
>>>
>>> Paul
>>
>> I just called Microcenter. They have a bfg 7600GS 512 for 80 bucks.
>> It is over an hours drive to get there, but they have some pretty good
>> places to eat around, so I will probably get this one.
>>
>> It has a years warranty.
>>
>> I really value your advice.
>>
>> Thanks
>
>7600 GS is in that chart as well. On the benchmark I happened to select,
>it rates 13.9, so it is a bit weaker than your 6800 GT.
>
>If you have a sense of humor, check this out. Newegg still carries a 6800 GT :-)
>I'm beginning to wonder if that is a real item or not... It's a good
>price.
>
>BFG Tech BFGR68256GTOC GeForce 6800GT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 AGP 4X/8X Video Card - Retail $30
>
>http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814143019
>
>It that item really isn't for sale any more, the 7600 GS is better than nothing.
>
>It doesn't sound like you're a fan of ATI, but if you were, there are
>ATI AGP cards still for sale. I listed them by rating, and this set
>of comments is for an HD 3850. This isn't the newest ATI card you can
>buy, but perhaps the driver situation will be a bit better with this
>one. At least you can find enough comments here, to see what kind
>of problems people have had with it. On the Tomshardware benchmark,
>this one got about 83. So as long as your processor is not a limitation,
>this would be faster than your old 6800 GT.
>
>http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16814102730
>
> Paul
>
BTW I have nothing against ATI, but I am clueless on how to compare a
3850 to a 6800. :)

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