New data suggest a lighter Higgs
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From: Igor on 28 Jul 2010 10:16 On Jul 27, 9:59 am, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On a sunny day (Tue, 27 Jul 2010 06:44:58 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Igor > <thoov...(a)excite.com> wrote in > <01336883-0b6c-4939-aa19-39e31726b...(a)q2g2000vbd.googlegroups.com>: > > Predictable madness uttered: > > >> > "Physicists are thus proposing the construction of a 19-mile-long linear > >> > accelerator to explore the properties of the Higgs. > > A logic reaction: > > >> i have a better suggestion > >> how you can find your mother in law there !!! > >> and by that saving more money > >> than now .... > > >> ATB > >> Y.Porat > > >I have an even better suggestion. Try to put together a somewhat > >coherent post that people can understand. > > This is all bullshit. > After the 19 mile they will want a 38 mile, > then a round one, then a linear one again, longer... > This has been going on ever since the kids started with throwing marbles. > All that ever came from it is tissue paper full of SciFi as seed for Hollywood. > > And still no clue what gravity is, and no Higgs found, no fusion power, > no cheap energy but using more then a small city. > So that fake tissue paper science is what needs to be made coherent, > best way is to scrap all those projects ITER, LIGO, CERN, all of them. > Give them 100$ and a deadline of 1 month to come up with something useful to humanity. > What was the mother of invention? They haven't even started looking for the Higgs at the LHC yet, so I don't understand what you're bitching about.
From: Igor on 28 Jul 2010 10:21 On Jul 27, 9:59 am, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On a sunny day (Tue, 27 Jul 2010 06:44:58 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Igor > <thoov...(a)excite.com> wrote in > <01336883-0b6c-4939-aa19-39e31726b...(a)q2g2000vbd.googlegroups.com>: > > Predictable madness uttered: > > >> > "Physicists are thus proposing the construction of a 19-mile-long linear > >> > accelerator to explore the properties of the Higgs. > > A logic reaction: > > >> i have a better suggestion > >> how you can find your mother in law there !!! > >> and by that saving more money > >> than now .... > > >> ATB > >> Y.Porat > > >I have an even better suggestion. Try to put together a somewhat > >coherent post that people can understand. > > This is all bullshit. > After the 19 mile they will want a 38 mile, > then a round one, then a linear one again, longer... > This has been going on ever since the kids started with throwing marbles. > All that ever came from it is tissue paper full of SciFi as seed for Hollywood. > > And still no clue what gravity is, and no Higgs found, no fusion power, > no cheap energy but using more then a small city. > So that fake tissue paper science is what needs to be made coherent, > best way is to scrap all those projects ITER, LIGO, CERN, all of them. > Give them 100$ and a deadline of 1 month to come up with something useful to humanity. > What was the mother of invention? Don't ever have childrem. It's way too big an investment with no guarantee of the eventual outcome.
From: Androcles on 28 Jul 2010 11:00 "Igor" <thoovler(a)excite.com> wrote in message news:5adea4d1-f8b7-43c4-b4df-880fa8f7d5c6(a)f6g2000yqa.googlegroups.com... On Jul 27, 9:59 am, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On a sunny day (Tue, 27 Jul 2010 06:44:58 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Igor > <thoov...(a)excite.com> wrote in > <01336883-0b6c-4939-aa19-39e31726b...(a)q2g2000vbd.googlegroups.com>: > > Predictable madness uttered: > > >> > "Physicists are thus proposing the construction of a 19-mile-long > >> > linear > >> > accelerator to explore the properties of the Higgs. > > A logic reaction: > > >> i have a better suggestion > >> how you can find your mother in law there !!! > >> and by that saving more money > >> than now .... > > >> ATB > >> Y.Porat > > >I have an even better suggestion. Try to put together a somewhat > >coherent post that people can understand. > > This is all bullshit. > After the 19 mile they will want a 38 mile, > then a round one, then a linear one again, longer... > This has been going on ever since the kids started with throwing marbles. > All that ever came from it is tissue paper full of SciFi as seed for > Hollywood. > > And still no clue what gravity is, and no Higgs found, no fusion power, > no cheap energy but using more then a small city. > So that fake tissue paper science is what needs to be made coherent, > best way is to scrap all those projects ITER, LIGO, CERN, all of them. > Give them 100$ and a deadline of 1 month to come up with something useful > to humanity. > What was the mother of invention? Don't ever have childrem. It's way too big an investment with no guarantee of the eventual outcome. ===================================== Hardly a good analogy, the outcome is statistically viable for the continuance of human beings and no theory is needed, there are many examples. Have lots of tooth fairies and Easter Bunnies. It's a small investment with a money-back guarantee of it becoming a Higgs boson. I'll pay you �100 for every tooth fairy you produce.
From: Y.Porat on 28 Jul 2010 21:57 On Jul 27, 5:42 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 26, 3:57 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > New data suggest a lighter Higgshttp://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/61449/title/New_data_sugge... > > > Fermilab results heat up race for an elusive particle > > By Ron Cowen > > > "Combined data from two experiments at the Fermilab's Tevatron particle > > accelerator indicate that the elusive Higgs boson known as the God > > particle does not have a mass between 158 and 175 GeV. Fermilab > > The God particle has fewer places to hide". > > > "Studies from the Large Electron-Positron Collider, which shut down in > > 2000 at the European research organization CERN, along with indirect > > constraints from both theory and experiments, had indicated that the > > Higgs could have a mass anywhere between 114 and 185 GeV. In late 2009, > > the two Tevatron experiments, known as CDF and DZero, excluded the range > > between 162 GeV and 166 GeV. With the new constraints, CDF and DZero > > have now ruled out nearly 25 percent of the mass range for the Higgs > > allowed prior to 2009, before the two experiments began weighing in on > > the proposed particle". > > > See:http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/61449/title/New_data_sugge... > > The LHC is better tuned to finding it if it's higher mass, and FNAL is > better tuned to finding it if it's lower mass, so on the face of it, > FNAL still has a slight advantage in plumbing the remaining space. > However, really all this does is to focus attention on two different > sets of decay channels, one set dominating at low mass and the other > set dominating at higher mass. So tweaking the reconstruction > algorithms to be more efficient with the targeted decay channels will > accelerate discovery. > > The really interesting event will be if no Higgs is found at all. > That's because we know SOMETHING has to happen. But if it's not a > light Higgs, then LHC will be better positioned to find it. > > PD ------------------ i am more interested to find there your mother in law .... i swear with such a religious motivations you will always find her there !!! (finding the same as - not finding -- will always be a victory according to you ..& Co..) Y.P ---------------------------------
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