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From: notbob on 17 Feb 2010 17:42 On 2010-02-17, unruh <unruh(a)wormhole.physics.ubc.ca> wrote: > obeying a set of rules, or for getting a job done. Education is a lot > better than ankle-irons. BINGO! Linux is about choice. Giving you no root access or information about how it works is not choice. nb
From: J G Miller on 17 Feb 2010 18:01 On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 22:47:53 +0000, NotBob wrote: > But, how will they know if they are not given the > option in the first place? But the option is there with "sudo passwd" and if you just do a simple web search you can find this information or even if you bothered to look in the release documentation.
From: Keith Keller on 17 Feb 2010 18:41 On 2010-02-17, notbob <notbob(a)nothome.com> wrote: > On 2010-02-17, Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet(a)wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> wrote: > >> Some users won't want the training wheels, in which case they can still >> take them off (sudo passwd root). > > That's more like it. But, how will they know if they are not given > the option in the first place? Anyone who can't find this option with a 30 second Google search doesn't deserve to have the training wheels taken off. ;-) Look, people pick Ubuntu for a reason. If they want a distro that's not "linux for wimps" they have plenty of other options. --keith -- kkeller-usenet(a)wombat.san-francisco.ca.us (try just my userid to email me) AOLSFAQ=http://www.therockgarden.ca/aolsfaq.txt see X- headers for PGP signature information
From: unruh on 17 Feb 2010 20:31 On 2010-02-17, Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet(a)wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> wrote: > On 2010-02-17, notbob <notbob(a)nothome.com> wrote: >> On 2010-02-17, Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet(a)wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> wrote: >> >>> Some users won't want the training wheels, in which case they can still >>> take them off (sudo passwd root). >> >> That's more like it. But, how will they know if they are not given >> the option in the first place? > > Anyone who can't find this option with a 30 second Google search doesn't > deserve to have the training wheels taken off. ;-) > > Look, people pick Ubuntu for a reason. If they want a distro that's not > "linux for wimps" they have plenty of other options. > Actually you have become arrogant with knowledge. If you are a naive user, what do you google for? Recall that it is passwd, not password ( which is the what most people would associate with passwords). Linux/Unix is a really arcane set of spells. It acts like the image of necromancers in the past-- you have to go through a series of words and deeds, in exactly the right order and in exactly the right form to get anything done. If you mess up one little letter you could find that y ou have destroyed everything. (look at that previous example sudo rm -r /tmp/private, vs sudo rm -r / tmp/private. One tiny little space. googling is great if you have some idea what you are looking for. If not, it is a complete mess. >
From: Robert Heller on 17 Feb 2010 20:51
At Wed, 17 Feb 2010 23:45:24 +0100 J G Miller <miller(a)yoyo.ORG> wrote: > > On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 14:37:52 -0600, Robert Heller wrote: > > > This avoids accidents and what not. > > Like > > sudo rm -fr / some_directory_temporary_directory Yes, one can shoot yourself in the foot using sudo. It is just every so slightly harder to do so. > > -- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 Deepwoods Software -- Download the Model Railroad System http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Binaries for Linux and MS-Windows heller(a)deepsoft.com -- http://www.deepsoft.com/ModelRailroadSystem/ |