From: Dan on 1 Jul 2010 11:25 "Tecknomage" <tecknode(a)NOSPAM.com> wrote in message news:b5ap26h1cv5n4bh082s1vsg0q9ugkoc9i4(a)4ax.com... > On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 14:16:42 -0400, "PA Bear [MS MVP]" > <PABearMVP(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> [Crosspost to IE General & Windows Update newsgroups] >> >> In its infinite, control-freak wisdom, MS has decided to drop IE General >> & >> Windows Update newsgroups on 01 July 2010; cf. >> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/default.mspx >> >> [Send your feedback to the black hole known as nntp(a)microsoft.com] >> >> If you need assistance with an IE problem, you can begin your own, new >> thread in this MS Answers forum: >> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/InternetExplorer/threads >> >> If you need assistance with a Windows Update problem, you can begin your >> own, new thread in this MS Answers forum: >> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vistawu/threads >> >> NB: Always state your full Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3; WinXP 64-bit >> SP2; Vista SP1; Vista 64-bit SP2; Win7; Win7 64-bit) as well as your >> current >> IE version (e.g., IE6, IE7, IE8) in your first post. >> >> MS Answers forums FAQ >> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/help >> >> "What a long, strange trip it's been." Bye-bye, see ya! >> ~~ >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) >> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002 > > > I am replying to the post from Newsgroup: > microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general > > Microsoft DOES NOT control the "microsoft.public." Newsgroups. > > The only way these Newsgroups will go away is if EVERY Usenet provider > dropped them from their NNTP Server, which ain't going to happen. > > Now it IS true that Microsoft can drop any Newsgroup is wants from > their www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/. > > > Also note Google Groups listing: > http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?lnk=srgmt&hl=en&q=microsoft.public > > And most of the posts to the microsoft.public newsgroups come from the Microsoft Communties web interface and people posting direct to the msnews.microsoft.com servers, both of which will cease over the coming months - the IE one today. So yes, cheer that the groups will live on, but lament that the number of posts will plummet to a tiny fraction of their current rate, the groups will die anyway. -- Dan
From: MowGreen on 1 Jul 2010 12:47 Jeff Strickland wrote: > "Terry R."<F1Com(a)NOSPAMpobox.com> wrote in message > news:udJoTqSGLHA.4824(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> On 6/30/2010 11:16 AM On a whim, PA Bear [MS MVP] pounded out on the >> keyboard >> >>> >>> "What a long, strange trip it's been." Bye-bye, see ya! >>> ~~ >>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) >>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002 >>> >> >> Last correction. No apostrophe in "its"... ;-) See ya! >> >> > "It's," is a contraction of it has, the apostrophe is proper. > > You are correct, Jeff. Thanks for confirming the appropriate apostrophe usage. Adieu to NNTP and to the Forums I say ... thanks but no tanks. MowGreen ================ *-343-* FDNY Never Forgotten ================ banthecheck.com "Security updates should *never* have *non-security content* prechecked
From: Jeff Strickland on 1 Jul 2010 13:33 "Dan" <news(a)worldofspack.com> wrote in message news:ei%23ZyGTGLHA.5160(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > "Tecknomage" <tecknode(a)NOSPAM.com> wrote in message > news:b5ap26h1cv5n4bh082s1vsg0q9ugkoc9i4(a)4ax.com... >> On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 14:16:42 -0400, "PA Bear [MS MVP]" >> <PABearMVP(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> [Crosspost to IE General & Windows Update newsgroups] >>> >>> In its infinite, control-freak wisdom, MS has decided to drop IE General >>> & >>> Windows Update newsgroups on 01 July 2010; cf. >>> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/default.mspx >>> >>> [Send your feedback to the black hole known as nntp(a)microsoft.com] >>> >>> If you need assistance with an IE problem, you can begin your own, new >>> thread in this MS Answers forum: >>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/InternetExplorer/threads >>> >>> If you need assistance with a Windows Update problem, you can begin your >>> own, new thread in this MS Answers forum: >>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vistawu/threads >>> >>> NB: Always state your full Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3; WinXP >>> 64-bit >>> SP2; Vista SP1; Vista 64-bit SP2; Win7; Win7 64-bit) as well as your >>> current >>> IE version (e.g., IE6, IE7, IE8) in your first post. >>> >>> MS Answers forums FAQ >>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/help >>> >>> "What a long, strange trip it's been." Bye-bye, see ya! >>> ~~ >>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) >>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002 >> >> >> I am replying to the post from Newsgroup: >> microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general >> >> Microsoft DOES NOT control the "microsoft.public." Newsgroups. >> >> The only way these Newsgroups will go away is if EVERY Usenet provider >> dropped them from their NNTP Server, which ain't going to happen. >> >> Now it IS true that Microsoft can drop any Newsgroup is wants from >> their www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/. >> >> >> Also note Google Groups listing: >> http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?lnk=srgmt&hl=en&q=microsoft.public >> >> > > And most of the posts to the microsoft.public newsgroups come from the > Microsoft Communties web interface and people posting direct to the > msnews.microsoft.com servers, both of which will cease over the coming > months - the IE one today. So yes, cheer that the groups will live on, but > lament that the number of posts will plummet to a tiny fraction of their > current rate, the groups will die anyway. > Anybody with a NNTP client, such as Outlook Express, Thunderbird, Windows Live Mail, etc., that can get to a newsgroup will still be able to post to the newsgroups listed in this thread. The groups are not going away, just MSoft's link to them is leaving us. To the extent that MSoft Communities is the entry portal for most posts, then the traffic will surely drop off when the portals close. Personally, I find any trip to Microsoft.com is so laden with frustration and dissatisfaction that I never go to there unless I absolutely have to, and then I only remain for the time it takes for the particular task. I find that everything that MSoft does is pretty much a disaster, and nothing good comes from my ventures into their realm. I (and I'd wonder if more are like me) found this group because of the frustration of getting any useful information from MSoft Communities. I used my news client to search for the group I needed when I was having whatever the problem was that I was having. Now, I return to help when I can.
From: Panic on 1 Jul 2010 17:36 Try these Newsgroup Servers: aioe.org and msnews.microsoft.com. I can still access microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general and microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop on the 2nd server and microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop on the first (aioe.org) I use Cox and their news.west.cox.net Newsgroup server just went dead today. I went to their chat room and was advised that 30 June, 2010 was the end of their providing Newsgroup service. "MowGreen" <mowgreen(a)nowandzen.com> wrote in message news:eGfAd0TGLHA.5668(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Jeff Strickland wrote: >> "Terry R."<F1Com(a)NOSPAMpobox.com> wrote in message >> news:udJoTqSGLHA.4824(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> On 6/30/2010 11:16 AM On a whim, PA Bear [MS MVP] pounded out on the >>> keyboard >>> >>>> >>>> "What a long, strange trip it's been." Bye-bye, see ya! >>>> ~~ >>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) >>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002 >>>> >>> >>> Last correction. No apostrophe in "its"... ;-) See ya! >>> >>> >> "It's," is a contraction of it has, the apostrophe is proper. >> >> > > > You are correct, Jeff. Thanks for confirming the appropriate apostrophe > usage. > > Adieu to NNTP and to the Forums I say ... thanks but no tanks. > > > MowGreen > ================ > *-343-* FDNY > Never Forgotten > ================ > > banthecheck.com > "Security updates should *never* have *non-security content* prechecked
From: antioch on 1 Jul 2010 17:35 Thank you for your help over the years - so will you continue in another form of NNTP? "its", the possessive adjective and possessive pronoun form of the personal pronoun "it" - "it's" a contraction of it is or it has. Adieu also to all. Antioch Just thought - today is 'chop it day' - still going?????? "MowGreen" <mowgreen(a)nowandzen.com> wrote in message news:eGfAd0TGLHA.5668(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Jeff Strickland wrote: >> "Terry R."<F1Com(a)NOSPAMpobox.com> wrote in message >> news:udJoTqSGLHA.4824(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> On 6/30/2010 11:16 AM On a whim, PA Bear [MS MVP] pounded out on the >>> keyboard >>> >>>> >>>> "What a long, strange trip it's been." Bye-bye, see ya! >>>> ~~ >>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) >>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002 >>>> >>> >>> Last correction. No apostrophe in "its"... ;-) See ya! >>> >>> >> "It's," is a contraction of it has, the apostrophe is proper. >> >> > > > You are correct, Jeff. Thanks for confirming the appropriate apostrophe > usage. > > Adieu to NNTP and to the Forums I say ... thanks but no tanks. > > > MowGreen > ================ > *-343-* FDNY > Never Forgotten > ================ > > banthecheck.com > "Security updates should *never* have *non-security content* prechecked
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