From: Dan on

"Tecknomage" <tecknode(a)NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:b5ap26h1cv5n4bh082s1vsg0q9ugkoc9i4(a)4ax.com...
> On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 14:16:42 -0400, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"
> <PABearMVP(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> [Crosspost to IE General & Windows Update newsgroups]
>>
>> In its infinite, control-freak wisdom, MS has decided to drop IE General
>> &
>> Windows Update newsgroups on 01 July 2010; cf.
>> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/default.mspx
>>
>> [Send your feedback to the black hole known as nntp(a)microsoft.com]
>>
>> If you need assistance with an IE problem, you can begin your own, new
>> thread in this MS Answers forum:
>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/InternetExplorer/threads
>>
>> If you need assistance with a Windows Update problem, you can begin your
>> own, new thread in this MS Answers forum:
>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vistawu/threads
>>
>> NB: Always state your full Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3; WinXP 64-bit
>> SP2; Vista SP1; Vista 64-bit SP2; Win7; Win7 64-bit) as well as your
>> current
>> IE version (e.g., IE6, IE7, IE8) in your first post.
>>
>> MS Answers forums FAQ
>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/help
>>
>> "What a long, strange trip it's been." Bye-bye, see ya!
>> ~~
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>
>
> I am replying to the post from Newsgroup:
> microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general
>
> Microsoft DOES NOT control the "microsoft.public." Newsgroups.
>
> The only way these Newsgroups will go away is if EVERY Usenet provider
> dropped them from their NNTP Server, which ain't going to happen.
>
> Now it IS true that Microsoft can drop any Newsgroup is wants from
> their www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/.
>
>
> Also note Google Groups listing:
> http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?lnk=srgmt&hl=en&q=microsoft.public
>
>

And most of the posts to the microsoft.public newsgroups come from the
Microsoft Communties web interface and people posting direct to the
msnews.microsoft.com servers, both of which will cease over the coming
months - the IE one today. So yes, cheer that the groups will live on, but
lament that the number of posts will plummet to a tiny fraction of their
current rate, the groups will die anyway.

--
Dan

From: MowGreen on
Jeff Strickland wrote:
> "Terry R."<F1Com(a)NOSPAMpobox.com> wrote in message
> news:udJoTqSGLHA.4824(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> On 6/30/2010 11:16 AM On a whim, PA Bear [MS MVP] pounded out on the
>> keyboard
>>
>>>
>>> "What a long, strange trip it's been." Bye-bye, see ya!
>>> ~~
>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>>>
>>
>> Last correction. No apostrophe in "its"... ;-) See ya!
>>
>>
> "It's," is a contraction of it has, the apostrophe is proper.
>
>


You are correct, Jeff. Thanks for confirming the appropriate apostrophe
usage.

Adieu to NNTP and to the Forums I say ... thanks but no tanks.


MowGreen
================
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
================

banthecheck.com
"Security updates should *never* have *non-security content* prechecked
From: Jeff Strickland on

"Dan" <news(a)worldofspack.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Tecknomage" <tecknode(a)NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
> news:b5ap26h1cv5n4bh082s1vsg0q9ugkoc9i4(a)4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 14:16:42 -0400, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"
>> <PABearMVP(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> [Crosspost to IE General & Windows Update newsgroups]
>>>
>>> In its infinite, control-freak wisdom, MS has decided to drop IE General
>>> &
>>> Windows Update newsgroups on 01 July 2010; cf.
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/default.mspx
>>>
>>> [Send your feedback to the black hole known as nntp(a)microsoft.com]
>>>
>>> If you need assistance with an IE problem, you can begin your own, new
>>> thread in this MS Answers forum:
>>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/InternetExplorer/threads
>>>
>>> If you need assistance with a Windows Update problem, you can begin your
>>> own, new thread in this MS Answers forum:
>>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vistawu/threads
>>>
>>> NB: Always state your full Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3; WinXP
>>> 64-bit
>>> SP2; Vista SP1; Vista 64-bit SP2; Win7; Win7 64-bit) as well as your
>>> current
>>> IE version (e.g., IE6, IE7, IE8) in your first post.
>>>
>>> MS Answers forums FAQ
>>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/help
>>>
>>> "What a long, strange trip it's been." Bye-bye, see ya!
>>> ~~
>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>>
>>
>> I am replying to the post from Newsgroup:
>> microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general
>>
>> Microsoft DOES NOT control the "microsoft.public." Newsgroups.
>>
>> The only way these Newsgroups will go away is if EVERY Usenet provider
>> dropped them from their NNTP Server, which ain't going to happen.
>>
>> Now it IS true that Microsoft can drop any Newsgroup is wants from
>> their www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/.
>>
>>
>> Also note Google Groups listing:
>> http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?lnk=srgmt&hl=en&q=microsoft.public
>>
>>
>
> And most of the posts to the microsoft.public newsgroups come from the
> Microsoft Communties web interface and people posting direct to the
> msnews.microsoft.com servers, both of which will cease over the coming
> months - the IE one today. So yes, cheer that the groups will live on, but
> lament that the number of posts will plummet to a tiny fraction of their
> current rate, the groups will die anyway.
>


Anybody with a NNTP client, such as Outlook Express, Thunderbird, Windows
Live Mail, etc., that can get to a newsgroup will still be able to post to
the newsgroups listed in this thread. The groups are not going away, just
MSoft's link to them is leaving us.

To the extent that MSoft Communities is the entry portal for most posts,
then the traffic will surely drop off when the portals close.

Personally, I find any trip to Microsoft.com is so laden with frustration
and dissatisfaction that I never go to there unless I absolutely have to,
and then I only remain for the time it takes for the particular task. I find
that everything that MSoft does is pretty much a disaster, and nothing good
comes from my ventures into their realm.

I (and I'd wonder if more are like me) found this group because of the
frustration of getting any useful information from MSoft Communities. I used
my news client to search for the group I needed when I was having whatever
the problem was that I was having. Now, I return to help when I can.







From: Panic on
Try these Newsgroup Servers: aioe.org and msnews.microsoft.com. I can still
access microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general and
microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop on the 2nd server and
microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop on the first (aioe.org)

I use Cox and their news.west.cox.net Newsgroup server just went dead today.
I went to their chat room and was advised that 30 June, 2010 was the end of
their providing Newsgroup service.

"MowGreen" <mowgreen(a)nowandzen.com> wrote in message
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> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>> "Terry R."<F1Com(a)NOSPAMpobox.com> wrote in message
>> news:udJoTqSGLHA.4824(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> On 6/30/2010 11:16 AM On a whim, PA Bear [MS MVP] pounded out on the
>>> keyboard
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "What a long, strange trip it's been." Bye-bye, see ya!
>>>> ~~
>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>>>>
>>>
>>> Last correction. No apostrophe in "its"... ;-) See ya!
>>>
>>>
>> "It's," is a contraction of it has, the apostrophe is proper.
>>
>>
>
>
> You are correct, Jeff. Thanks for confirming the appropriate apostrophe
> usage.
>
> Adieu to NNTP and to the Forums I say ... thanks but no tanks.
>
>
> MowGreen
> ================
> *-343-* FDNY
> Never Forgotten
> ================
>
> banthecheck.com
> "Security updates should *never* have *non-security content* prechecked

From: antioch on
Thank you for your help over the years - so will you continue in another
form of NNTP?

"its", the possessive adjective and possessive pronoun form of the personal
pronoun "it" -
"it's" a contraction of it is or it has.

Adieu also to all.

Antioch
Just thought - today is 'chop it day' - still going??????


"MowGreen" <mowgreen(a)nowandzen.com> wrote in message
news:eGfAd0TGLHA.5668(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>> "Terry R."<F1Com(a)NOSPAMpobox.com> wrote in message
>> news:udJoTqSGLHA.4824(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> On 6/30/2010 11:16 AM On a whim, PA Bear [MS MVP] pounded out on the
>>> keyboard
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "What a long, strange trip it's been." Bye-bye, see ya!
>>>> ~~
>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>>>>
>>>
>>> Last correction. No apostrophe in "its"... ;-) See ya!
>>>
>>>
>> "It's," is a contraction of it has, the apostrophe is proper.
>>
>>
>
>
> You are correct, Jeff. Thanks for confirming the appropriate apostrophe
> usage.
>
> Adieu to NNTP and to the Forums I say ... thanks but no tanks.
>
>
> MowGreen
> ================
> *-343-* FDNY
> Never Forgotten
> ================
>
> banthecheck.com
> "Security updates should *never* have *non-security content* prechecked