Newton's law of gravitational attraction
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From: Inertial on 29 Sep 2009 01:12 "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:ca595576-a38b-4d0e-b58b-b14295d8e8a6(a)t2g2000yqn.googlegroups.com... > On Sep 29, 4:30 am, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote: >> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:355c55a5-12af-4532-b868-efe8bcf53419(a)v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com... >> >> > it is enough that you will not be able to find a single particle that >> > needed to your theory >> > THAT YOUR THEORY IS INCONSISTENT EVEN BY YOUR >> > OWN RULES >> > UNLESS YOU ARE CHEATING >> > SHAMELESSLY !! >> > iow >> > what yo do here i s more propaganda than science !!! >> > and in propaganda some times >> > the bigegr the lie >> > the more chance to be accepted by suckers !! >> > but not me and alike me !! >> >> > but you cant cheat every body forever !! >> > Y.Porat >> >> Yet again, we find a crackpot accusing others of the very shortcomings >> and >> failing of himself. You can't cheat everybody forever, Porat. But most >> have us have already worked out that you don't understand physics in the >> slightest. > > ---------------------- > litle Josef Goebbels little red riding hood > speak ** physics arguments*!! Most of us do discuss physics. You should try it sometime. > we dont need your Goebbels propaganda > here What propaganda would that be?
From: Y.Porat on 29 Sep 2009 05:41 On Sep 29, 7:12 am, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote: > "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:ca595576-a38b-4d0e-b58b-b14295d8e8a6(a)t2g2000yqn.googlegroups.com... > > > > > On Sep 29, 4:30 am, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote: > >> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > >>news:355c55a5-12af-4532-b868-efe8bcf53419(a)v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com.... > > >> > it is enough that you will not be able to find a single particle that > >> > needed to your theory > >> > THAT YOUR THEORY IS INCONSISTENT EVEN BY YOUR > >> > OWN RULES > >> > UNLESS YOU ARE CHEATING > >> > SHAMELESSLY !! > >> > iow > >> > what yo do here i s more propaganda than science !!! > >> > and in propaganda some times > >> > the bigegr the lie > >> > the more chance to be accepted by suckers !! > >> > but not me and alike me !! > > >> > but you cant cheat every body forever !! > >> > Y.Porat > > >> Yet again, we find a crackpot accusing others of the very shortcomings > >> and > >> failing of himself. You can't cheat everybody forever, Porat. But most > >> have us have already worked out that you don't understand physics in the > >> slightest. > > > ---------------------- > > litle Josef Goebbels > > little red riding hood > > > speak ** physics arguments*!! > > Most of us do discuss physics. You should try it sometime. > > > we dont need your Goebbels propaganda > > here > > What propaganda would that be? -------------------- { NG - Goebbels ing { in a new term i invented just now for you and alike you that are defaming personally while not bringing a single word of physics argument got it little Josef ?? it is for hired gangsters as well and for leeches as well that have no day job parasites that sit all day next to the computer Y.P ----------------------------
From: Y.Porat on 29 Sep 2009 05:55 On Sep 29, 5:50 am, doug <x...(a)xx.com> wrote: > Inertial wrote: > > > "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > >news:355c55a5-12af-4532-b868-efe8bcf53419(a)v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com.... > > >> it is enough that you will not be able to find a single particle that > >> needed to your theory > >> THAT YOUR THEORY IS INCONSISTENT EVEN BY YOUR > >> OWN RULES > >> UNLESS YOU ARE CHEATING > >> SHAMELESSLY !! > >> iow > >> what yo do here i s more propaganda than science !!! > >> and in propaganda some times > >> the bigegr the lie > >> the more chance to be accepted by suckers !! > >> but not me and alike me !! > > >> but you cant cheat every body forever !! > >> Y.Porat > > > Yet again, we find a crackpot accusing others of the very shortcomings > > and failing of himself. You can't cheat everybody forever, Porat. But > > most have us have already worked out that you don't understand physics > > in the slightest. > > Porat has not worked out that his complete lack of knowledge of > grammar is matched only by his complete lack of knowledge of science. > Even if he were to make any science sense, which he does not, it > would be hidden behind his ignorance of how to present it. ---------------- i noticed that dugi and PD are actually Mr jekel and Mr Hide now Dugi just take a cureent example of my the above discussions and show us how you would present it btw] i dont think that peopel who really are interesting in my findings and arguments would not care for 'cosmetics ' of 'beautiful presentation' i am quite sure that the main thing is they understand me quit well !! btw the fantastic explantion that PD brought about protons and antiprotons living together peacefully '' in our every day life that is** many degrees of much lower energy levels ** is so fantastic and devious that it is hard to confront such nonsense physics it i such a stupid illusive lie that leaves you nearly speechless sort of someone comming to you and lelling you : me and a another hundred people saw jst a minute ago 3 bitches on brooms passing over NJ wi tth e speed of o.58237 c ... Y.Porat ----------------------------
From: Inertial on 29 Sep 2009 06:29 "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:77ed5a2e-9adf-4fd1-853c-e222dfffe1c7(a)t32g2000yqj.googlegroups.com... > On Sep 29, 7:12 am, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote: >> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:ca595576-a38b-4d0e-b58b-b14295d8e8a6(a)t2g2000yqn.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> > On Sep 29, 4:30 am, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote: >> >> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> >>news:355c55a5-12af-4532-b868-efe8bcf53419(a)v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> > it is enough that you will not be able to find a single particle >> >> > that >> >> > needed to your theory >> >> > THAT YOUR THEORY IS INCONSISTENT EVEN BY YOUR >> >> > OWN RULES >> >> > UNLESS YOU ARE CHEATING >> >> > SHAMELESSLY !! >> >> > iow >> >> > what yo do here i s more propaganda than science !!! >> >> > and in propaganda some times >> >> > the bigegr the lie >> >> > the more chance to be accepted by suckers !! >> >> > but not me and alike me !! >> >> >> > but you cant cheat every body forever !! >> >> > Y.Porat >> >> >> Yet again, we find a crackpot accusing others of the very shortcomings >> >> and >> >> failing of himself. You can't cheat everybody forever, Porat. But >> >> most >> >> have us have already worked out that you don't understand physics in >> >> the >> >> slightest. >> >> > ---------------------- >> > litle Josef Goebbels >> >> little red riding hood >> >> > speak ** physics arguments*!! >> >> Most of us do discuss physics. You should try it sometime. >> >> > we dont need your Goebbels propaganda >> > here >> >> What propaganda would that be? > > -------------------- > { NG - Goebbels ing { in a new term i invented just now for you > and alike you > that are defaming personally > while not bringing a single word of > physics argument > got it little Josef ?? You've just described yourself perfectly > it is for hired gangsters as well > and for leeches as well that have no day job > parasites that sit all day next to the computer And there's the evidence of it.
From: PD on 29 Sep 2009 09:43
On Sep 28, 8:25 pm, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Sep 28, 9:26 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Sep 28, 12:08 pm, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Mr PD you forgo tests. > > > > sometines 2 3 5 times bigger > > > but that is jsut in order of the safly factor > > > and then we see that the structure > > > broke !1 > > > got it IN A HIGHER ENERGY THE STRUCTRE BREALES !! > > > got it > > > yuo ucant fiddle with enourmous differences df enery > > > every beginner in science knows the limiys of symetry laws !! > > > again > > > limit of symerty beaking > > > > EACH PROCESS HAS IT S LIMIT OF ENERGY LEVER > > > > for instance > > > for the solid phase yo have the ordibant temperture > > > for liqiod another level > > > for plasma completely laws of plasme than solid > > > > gliding beyNd the SPECIFIC energy level > > > foe a certain symetry law you get > > > BREAKING OF THE SYMERTY LAW OF THAT > > > phase > > > > at e Bgig Bang there were certian enelgy levels > > > later while it cooled down completely other particles > > > were created etc etc etc > > > so in short Mr PD > > > yo u are yalking tosoemone who understand a bit the basic of physice > > > there for can tell you when a trheory is > > > DEAD BNY ARRIVAL !! > > > spplease dont senf me to liberraris to spend my > > > (and your !!)precious time > > > anytime we meet nonsense physics > > > btw > > > i dont understand waht is you 'religious fight > > > to protect theories that are not yours > > > and you dont really and deeply understand it all along . ie to > > > be ''hermetically closed '' > > > iow > > > AND AT THE END OF THE DAY IT IS NOT *YOUR **** THEORY AT ALL ** !! > > > Nor am I claiming it is. That's why I'm suggesting you to to PUBLIC > > resources to find out what the real information is. > > > > dont be a sucker > > > and dont consider all others to be suckers !!! > > > > ATB > > > Y.Porat > > > ------------------------ > > you abstart hand wavings does not impress me > nore shouldimpress anyone > the devil isin the detailes That's right. Just don't expect all the details to be delivered to you on Usenet. Would you like some useful book references where you can find the details? Care to explain, Porat, what it is about your situation that you cannot go someplace where books are? > i said that the eenrgy leevl of that huge accelerator is not theone > that isin our every day > life it as nothing to do with it > you speal lofty about desighning experiments and interpretating it > > he very notion that waht you get in the huge accelerator is waht you > get in out every day matter > that byitself is > WRONG INTERPRETATION! That's not so. First of all, those energies are rather ordinary. Cosmic rays beat anything we can get in an accelerator by ten billion times. Nature spans a whole range of energies, from atomic levels (a few eV to a few keV for electromagnetic interactions, a few MeV up to a GeV for strong and weak nuclear interactions) up to cosmic ray levels (up to billions of quadrillions of eV), and we have built our machines to look now at the center of that range (about a TeV), where something interesting is expected to happen. We are not out of range of every day reality at all. We're smack dab in the middle of it. I really don't care that all you want to look at is the low end of what every day reality has to offer. > as i told you > eachenery level has its lwas of symetry > once you out ot the elergy level by > MANY ORDERS OF ENERGY LEVEL > **THERE IS NO CONNECTION BETWEEN > YOUR ACCELERATOR AND EVERY DAY DEALITY !!! > and i actually make it much shotter our dispute: > > you ahven t explain your model eevn not experimentally TO FIT EVEN > YOUR THEORY while > ***YOU STILL MISSING PARTICLES IN THAT FAIRY STORY OF YOURS Yes, and there is nothing wrong with having some open questions in a theory. I've already told you that, but you seem to have forgotten it overnight. > you are missing some particles that > you youself mentioned and i even didnt know about that fact > you miss as well the Higgs Boson > though the huge efforts to find it !! > you cant present it as a minor 'hole'just because you present it as a > minor 'hole' !! It's not a minor hole. It's a major open question. It's not a hole at all. It'll be a hole if we look where we think it should be an it isn't there. So far, we haven't been able to look where we think it should be. > your theory ids full of holes as i indicated > and you could not answer them > (jut by sending me to yiour stupid parrots library i saw just the > vikipedia > and it was enough tfo rme to realize that it is dead by arrival Sorry, Porat, but your reliance on free internet resources is going to doom you to incorrect conclusions. You need better materials. > > force messengers that are 100 times bigegr than their mother !! > only a stupid mathematician whould accelt it without blinking an > eye !! ... That's not true, Porat. Physicists have accepted this for almost a century. I realize that YOU have problems with it, but that's not a problem shared by most others. > > so even according to your rules of game > you pose falsely that the above theory > is ;proven! ('hemetically") No, I *never* said the theory is proven. No theory in science is EVER proven. If you thought that theories needed to be proven "hermetically", then you have no idea how science works. > > it is enough that you will not be able to find a single particle that > needed to your theory We have to look for it where it can be found easily. We haven't done that yet. > THAT YOUR THEORY IS INCONSISTENT EVEN BY YOUR > OWN RULES > UNLESS YOU ARE CHEATING > SHAMELESSLY !! > iow > what yo do here i s more propaganda than science !!! > and in propaganda some times > the bigegr the lie > the more chance to be accepted by suckers !! > but not me and alike me !! > > but you cant cheat every body forever !! > Y.Porat > > ------------------------------- |