From: PD on
On Jan 6, 8:14 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
> On Jan 1, 1:12 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
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> > On Dec 31 2009, 6:19 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
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> > > On Dec 23, 9:53 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Dec 22, 7:00 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
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> > > > > Dear PD:  NOW you are agreeing that gamma rays carry away the "mass"
> > > > > of the two particles.
>
> > > > Please read what I said. There is no mass that is associable to each
> > > > photon.
>
> > > ... Please point out where I said otherwise!  — NE —
>
> > Sure. On December 22, you said this: "Radioactive decay LOWERS the
> > atomic weight by
> > the release of three particles.  Between them, the mass gets spooned
> > away from the mother mass.  So, those three particles must have mass
> > themselves.  Mine is proof by reasoning."
>
> Where does my statement mention anything about... photons?

Gamma rays are photons, NoEinstein. Please check your facts before you
mouth off.

> Loose your
> smoke and mirrors, PD.  You don't have the brains to be even a
> magician.  — NE —

From: PD on
On Jan 6, 8:19 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
> On Jan 1, 1:13 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Folks:   If PD has ever paraphrased any experiment or any other of his
> supposed proofs regarding science, I would like to hear about it.

As I said, you are not entitled to that service for free. I'd be more
than happy to point to where you can look it up.

>  He
> avoids discussing real science like a plague.  That's probably because
> PD has a terminal case of Einstein's disease.  — NoEinstein —
>
>
>
> > On Jan 1, 8:06 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Nov 6 2009, 10:47 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Nov 6, 2:37 pm, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > On Nov 4, 1:51 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:> On Oct 30, 3:47 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
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> > > > > > > On Oct 27, 4:09 pm, doug <x...(a)xx.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Dear Dougie Boy, the leech: You have one standard, and one standard
> > > > > > > alone for what "true" science is, namely: Anything that has ever been
> > > > > > > printed in a college textbook is "...the truth, the whole truth, and
> > > > > > > nothing but the truth."
>
> > > > > > No. What is verified by experiment is the truth. However, textbooks do
> > > > > > a pretty good job of summarizing what has been found that way to be
> > > > > > the truth.
> > > > > > ------------------------------
>
> > > > > it is funny as PD is talking as he was
> > > > > the   priest        of the Goddess of science:
>
> > > > > experiments      are the  truth   always ??? (:-)
>
> > > > > PD forgot that an experiment means nothing
> > > > > unless it is INTERPRETATED !!
>
> > > > That's incorrect, Porat. You've obviously not done a science
> > > > experiment.
>
> > > > > here is an example
>
> > > > > experiment tells us that it   more difficult  in order to add valicity
>
> > > > No, that's not what experiment tells you. Various theories make
> > > > predictions about what will be observed numerically about the final
> > > > velocity of an object after a force has been applied. Measurement in
> > > > experiment simply tells you which of these models got the prediction
>
> > > -------------------
> > > you hand waving is good as a  harmful deceptive  ** lie** !!!
> > > as long you dont tell   us exactly **which experiments**
> > > and how they are done!!
> > > and then we will be able to reexamine them !!!
>
> > I've already told you where to look up the documentation about which
> > experiments have been done and how they are done.
> > You'd like to have that documentation summarized here.
> > You are not entitled to that service for free.
> > You are certainly capable of looking up that documentation yourself.
>
> > > i examined in past many  experiments
> > > and saw clearly the mistaken interpretation of parrots
>
> > > TIA
> > > Y.Porat
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> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
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From: Autymn D. C. on
On Jan 6, 6:30 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
> On Jan 5, 1:36 pm, "Autymn D. C." <lysde...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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>
>
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> > On Jan 1, 10:09 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Dec 31 2009, 6:18 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
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> > > > On Dec 23, 9:52 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Dear PD the Parasite Dunce:  You said: "The evidence against nonzero
> > > > mass for gamma rays is in the experimental literature."  But you
> > > > haven't explained how radioactive decay can LOWER the atomic weight....
> > > > unless either or all of the gamma, beta, and alpha particles have
> > > > mass.  Good reasoning will trump you references to errant science
> > > > every time!  — NoEinstein —
>
> > > If you're looking for an explanation, then let's first clear up a
> > > misconception.
> > > Mass is not a conserved quantity. There is no conservation of mass
> > > law. Therefore, if mass disappears, it does not have to be carried
> > > away by anything.
> > > This is a good example of mass converting to energy, with the result
> > > that there is less mass than before.
> > > Another example is ordinary carbon.
> > > If you add up the mass of 6 protons and 6 neutrons, you find you get a
> > > number that is different than the mass of a carbon-12 nucleus. Where
> > > did the extra mass go? It was converted to energy. There is now less
> > > mass than there was originally.
>
> > Um uh-oh, this is another pop misconception.  Mass and energhy do not
> > interconvert, and neither does E=mcc imply they do.  However,
> > potential energhy becomes cinetic energhy, and the mass of the sýstem
> > stays--but mass then becomes within another set of bodies.
>
> > -Aut

> Dear Autymn: Einstein was correct when he said that mass can be
> converted into energy and energy can be converted into mass.  But he

not
From: Inertial on

"Autymn D. C." <lysdexia(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:9de64805-d645-4755-800f-c8477c4947d1(a)m3g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 6, 6:30 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> On Jan 5, 1:36 pm, "Autymn D. C." <lysde...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Jan 1, 10:09 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > On Dec 31 2009, 6:18 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>> > > > On Dec 23, 9:52 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > > Dear PD the Parasite Dunce: You said: "The evidence against
>> > > > nonzero
>> > > > mass for gamma rays is in the experimental literature." But you
>> > > > haven't explained how radioactive decay can LOWER the atomic
>> > > > weight...
>> > > > unless either or all of the gamma, beta, and alpha particles have
>> > > > mass. Good reasoning will trump you references to errant science
>> > > > every time! � NoEinstein �
>>
>> > > If you're looking for an explanation, then let's first clear up a
>> > > misconception.
>> > > Mass is not a conserved quantity. There is no conservation of mass
>> > > law. Therefore, if mass disappears, it does not have to be carried
>> > > away by anything.
>> > > This is a good example of mass converting to energy, with the result
>> > > that there is less mass than before.
>> > > Another example is ordinary carbon.
>> > > If you add up the mass of 6 protons and 6 neutrons, you find you get
>> > > a
>> > > number that is different than the mass of a carbon-12 nucleus. Where
>> > > did the extra mass go? It was converted to energy. There is now less
>> > > mass than there was originally.
>>
>> > Um uh-oh, this is another pop misconception. Mass and energhy do not
>> > interconvert, and neither does E=mcc imply they do. However,
>> > potential energhy becomes cinetic energhy, and the mass of the s�stem
>> > stays--but mass then becomes within another set of bodies.
>>
>> > -Aut
>
>> Dear Autymn: Einstein was correct when he said that mass can be
>> converted into energy and energy can be converted into mass. But he
>
> not

Nuclear bombs and reactors prove you wrong, Autistic one.


From: Autymn D. C. on
On Jan 7, 8:57 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote:
> "Autymn D. C." <lysde...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in messagenews:9de64805-d645-4755-800f-c8477c4947d1(a)m3g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
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>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 6, 6:30 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >> On Jan 5, 1:36 pm, "Autymn D. C." <lysde...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> >> > On Jan 1, 10:09 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > > On Dec 31 2009, 6:18 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> >> > > > On Dec 23, 9:52 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > > > Dear PD the Parasite Dunce:  You said: "The evidence against
> >> > > > nonzero
> >> > > > mass for gamma rays is in the experimental literature."  But you
> >> > > > haven't explained how radioactive decay can LOWER the atomic
> >> > > > weight...
> >> > > > unless either or all of the gamma, beta, and alpha particles have
> >> > > > mass.  Good reasoning will trump you references to errant science
> >> > > > every time!  — NoEinstein —
>
> >> > > If you're looking for an explanation, then let's first clear up a
> >> > > misconception.
> >> > > Mass is not a conserved quantity. There is no conservation of mass
> >> > > law. Therefore, if mass disappears, it does not have to be carried
> >> > > away by anything.
> >> > > This is a good example of mass converting to energy, with the result
> >> > > that there is less mass than before.
> >> > > Another example is ordinary carbon.
> >> > > If you add up the mass of 6 protons and 6 neutrons, you find you get
> >> > > a
> >> > > number that is different than the mass of a carbon-12 nucleus. Where
> >> > > did the extra mass go? It was converted to energy. There is now less
> >> > > mass than there was originally.
>
> >> > Um uh-oh, this is another pop misconception.  Mass and energhy do not
> >> > interconvert, and neither does E=mcc imply they do.  However,
> >> > potential energhy becomes cinetic energhy, and the mass of the sýstem
> >> > stays--but mass then becomes within another set of bodies.
>
> >> > -Aut
>
> >> Dear Autymn: Einstein was correct when he said that mass can be
> >> converted into energy and energy can be converted into mass.  But he
>
> > not
>
> Nuclear bombs and reactors prove you wrong, Autistic one.

Read above and its last line, lackwit.