From: Gary Peek on
Any NiCad battery experts out there? For a NiCad battery pack that
has not been in use for a long time, like a year, and has discharged
well below the point of operating the circuit it was powering, what
is the best way to restore it to use? Is charging it in the normal
manner good enough, or are a couple of charge/discharge cycles better?

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From: Ecnerwal on
In article <honuq6$ptu$1(a)adenine.netfront.net>,
Gary Peek <mylastname(a)mycompanyname.com> wrote:

> Any NiCad battery experts out there? For a NiCad battery pack that
> has not been in use for a long time, like a year, and has discharged
> well below the point of operating the circuit it was powering, what
> is the best way to restore it to use? Is charging it in the normal
> manner good enough, or are a couple of charge/discharge cycles better?
>
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Depends what state it's in. Often at that point you're needing to zap it
with a good-sized electrolytic capacitor, which might typically get it
from holding a charge for 5 minutes or less to holding a charge for
perhaps half the original life, if you are lucky. Otherwise, or if you
need full performance, replace it. Try a normal charge cycle first, if
your charger will even talk to it.

The capacitor zap supposedly burns off little dendrites that perforate
the cells. I don't really know - I do know that it does sometimes work
to restore useful, if not full, function to old batteries.

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From: AZ Nomad on
On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 11:06:30 -0500, Gary Peek <mylastname(a)mycompanyname.com> wrote:
>Any NiCad battery experts out there? For a NiCad battery pack that
>has not been in use for a long time, like a year, and has discharged
>well below the point of operating the circuit it was powering, what
>is the best way to restore it to use? Is charging it in the normal
>manner good enough, or are a couple of charge/discharge cycles better?

It's probably trash.
From: AZ Nomad on
On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 12:24:19 -0400, Ecnerwal <MyNameForward(a)ReplaceWithMyVices.Com.invalid> wrote:
>In article <honuq6$ptu$1(a)adenine.netfront.net>,
> Gary Peek <mylastname(a)mycompanyname.com> wrote:

>> Any NiCad battery experts out there? For a NiCad battery pack that
>> has not been in use for a long time, like a year, and has discharged
>> well below the point of operating the circuit it was powering, what
>> is the best way to restore it to use? Is charging it in the normal
>> manner good enough, or are a couple of charge/discharge cycles better?
>>
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>Depends what state it's in. Often at that point you're needing to zap it
>with a good-sized electrolytic capacitor, which might typically get it
>from holding a charge for 5 minutes or less to holding a charge for
>perhaps half the original life, if you are lucky. Otherwise, or if you
>need full performance, replace it. Try a normal charge cycle first, if
>your charger will even talk to it.

>The capacitor zap supposedly burns off little dendrites that perforate
>the cells. I don't really know - I do know that it does sometimes work
>to restore useful, if not full, function to old batteries.

I've never seen it work well enough to be work the bother.

I find that nicads and nimh batteries do great when in use, but quit using
them and leave them to discharge and stay that way and they'll be ruined.
Seen that happen with at least 5 sets. Not sure about li-ion batteries.
Bought two for a used laptop where one was in regular use, the other
sitting in the docking station. The docking station one now has about half
the capacity just from sitting around neglected for two years with only the
occasional charge.
From: Archimedes' Lever on
On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 11:31:24 -0500, AZ Nomad
<aznomad.3(a)PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote:

>On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 11:06:30 -0500, Gary Peek <mylastname(a)mycompanyname.com> wrote:
>>Any NiCad battery experts out there? For a NiCad battery pack that
>>has not been in use for a long time, like a year, and has discharged
>>well below the point of operating the circuit it was powering, what
>>is the best way to restore it to use? Is charging it in the normal
>>manner good enough, or are a couple of charge/discharge cycles better?
>
>It's probably trash.


Good answer. Old NiCads will still work, but not very well. If it
isn't made within the last few years, it is probably too old to work
with.

They end up working like slow charge, quick discharge, leaky
capacitors. Really, really bad ones.
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