From: Mike Easter on
Mike Easter wrote:
> a conflict
> between jinxy's GG QP and Vista WM in plaintext mode.

> I'm also going to research how GG tries to implement QP Quoted
> Printable. That setting generally should not be used.

I have a GG account. I posted a test message elsewhere. That test
message is not in Quoted Printable. That content type should not be
used, and I can't find where to turn it off.

Jinxy's headers contain these lines:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Mine did not.

The linux Tbird wasn't bolloxed by the condition during this
conversation, but the Vista Mail definitely was. It doesn't seem
possible to make a configuration in Vista Mail which can reply to that
GG format and get proper attribution and quote marks.

I'm baffled by how Jinxy can be posting in GG QP and I cannot find a
place to make that configuration when logged into a GG account.


--
Mike Easter
From: Mike Easter on
Mike Easter wrote:
>> a conflict between jinxy's GG QP and Vista WM in plaintext mode.
>
>> I'm also going to research how GG tries to implement QP Quoted
>> Printable. That setting generally should not be used.

> I'm baffled by how Jinxy can be posting in GG QP and I cannot find a
> place to make that configuration when logged into a GG account.

It turns out that the QP condition from GG is uncontrollable and
nonconfigurable - it happens hit or miss inexplicably. When it happens,
it screws up the ability of OE or any of its derivatives such as WM to
reply and attribute and quote properly.

Here are two sentences about the condition posted recently by VanguardLH
with whom I am familiar.

http://snipr.com/u41o9
From: VanguardLH
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general
Subject: Re: Can't use internet options...
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 17:40:25 -0600
Message-ID: <hholgr$qmp$1(a)news.albasani.net>

<q> Two, Google seems erratic as to when it decides to use
quoted-printable format or not. OE doesn't know how to handle QP
formatted posts. In fact, no newsreader knows how to properly handle QP
posts <q> I have not played around with Google Groups enough to know
why they sometimes use quoted-printable format and other times not. </q>


Personally, I would rather that people participate in usenet groups with
newsreader and nntp news server and use GG just for searching or for
reading and posting to GG-only groups.

There are numerous problems for the GG user and the GG 'condition' also
causes problems for others.


--
Mike Easter
From: Mike Easter on
Playing with a workaround here

"jinxy"
> Mike Easter

>> This is Marvell Yukon Ethernet Controller Driver.
>> Driver Ver. 10.21.5.3

> I had already obtained that driver from the Marvel site.

Good.

> The network controller , under "other devices" seems to
> be the culprit.

I don't have other devices. Some LGs have a bluetooth. I wonder if that
is other devices.

> As far as I can determine it is a Ralink product.

I'm not familiar with bluetooth ware, but I have seen a lot of ralink
network adapters/devices.

> Still no luck in even finding my network or any others in the area.
> This is starting to become redundant. Frustrated

I'm sympathetic to the frustration, but I think that your concept of
something being broken (as opposed to simply misconfigured) which is
common to both network adapters, ethernet and wireless, is not a correct
analysis.


The workaround was saving Jinxy's post as .nws file then editing out the
bad QP line, then opening the file, editing it and posting it. Absent the
QP line, the message handled normally.

--
Mike Easter

From: Paul on
jinxy wrote:
> On Jan 16, 10:20 pm, Mike Easter <Mi...(a)ster.invalid> wrote:
>> jinxy wrote:
>>> Mike Easter
>>>> LG has Marvell LAN drivers at their site for the onboard LAN for
>>>> R405-A.C226E -- but I don't know which sub-R405 model you have
>>>> http://snipr.com/u3uecProduct Support for R405-A.C226E -
>>>> [LAN/XP/Vista] LG Notebook OnBoard Marvell LAN Driver
>>> OS is Vista Home Premium.
>>> The sticker on the underside says-model# LGR40 config-R405-
>>> A and M/N-R405-CPO3A9.
>> It is exceedingly awkward to search for discontinued products at LG
>>
>> Here is the drivers page for the...
>>
>> Product Support for R405-A.CP03A9
>>
>> notice that is the same as your modelno
>>
>> (are you working on this problem at all at the LG site?)
>>
>> Please click this link http://snipr.com/u3vssand demonstrate that you
>> know what the LG support pages look like.
>>
>> <snip>
>> [LAN/XP/Vista] LG Notebook OnBoard Marvell LAN Driver
>>
>> Details for:
>> [LAN/XP/Vista] LG Notebook OnBoard Marvell LAN Driver
>> LAN.zip
>> Download this File
>> Size: 19,754K
>> Operating System(s): Windows XP , Windows Vista
>> Marvell Yukon Ethernet Controller Driver
>>
>> This is Marvell Yukon Ethernet Controller Driver.
>> Driver Ver. 10.21.5.3
>>
>> [ Application model ]
>> . Marvell Ethernet Controller is applied LG Notebook
>> . Windows XP / Vista
>>
>> [ Caution ]
>> ? LG Electronics recommend to use Windows XP or Vista.
>> Installation Other OS may cause functional problem, and it will not be
>> covered by product warranty.
>>
>> - If you install this driver to other product, it may cause functional
>> defect, so, please be make sure the "Applied Model".
>>
>> - Installation process may be different according to user's environment.
>>
>> [ Installation Process ]
>> 1. Download file.
>> 2. Extract file, and it will make folder.
>> 3. Execute "LAN\\SetupYukonWINC_5X6N.EXE "
>> </snip>
>>
>> --
>> Mike Easter
>
> I had already obtained that driver from the Marvel site. Installed a
> few days ago. The network controller , under "other devices" seems to
> be the culprit. As far as I can determine it is a Ralink product.
> Still no luck in even finding my network or any others in the area.
> This is starting to become redundant. Frustrated
> -J

Ralink have drivers here.

http://www.ralinktech.com/support.php?s=1

Paul
From: jinxy on
On Jan 17, 7:59 pm, Paul <nos...(a)needed.com> wrote:
> jinxy wrote:
> > On Jan 16, 10:20 pm, Mike Easter <Mi...(a)ster.invalid> wrote:
> >> jinxy wrote:
> >>> Mike Easter
> >>>> LG has Marvell LAN drivers at their site for the onboard LAN for
> >>>> R405-A.C226E -- but I don't know which sub-R405 model you have
> >>>>http://snipr.com/u3uecProductSupport for R405-A.C226E -
> >>>> [LAN/XP/Vista] LG Notebook OnBoard Marvell LAN Driver
> >>>  OS is Vista Home Premium.
> >>> The sticker on the underside says-model# LGR40  config-R405-
> >>> A  and M/N-R405-CPO3A9.
> >> It is exceedingly awkward to search for discontinued products at LG
>
> >> Here is the drivers page for the...
>
> >> Product Support for R405-A.CP03A9
>
> >> notice that is the same as your modelno
>
> >> (are you working on this problem at all at the LG site?)
>
> >> Please click this link  http://snipr.com/u3vssanddemonstrate that you
> >> know what the LG support pages look like.
>
> >> <snip>
> >> [LAN/XP/Vista] LG Notebook OnBoard Marvell LAN Driver
>
> >> Details for:
> >> [LAN/XP/Vista] LG Notebook OnBoard Marvell LAN Driver
> >> LAN.zip
> >> Download this File
> >> Size: 19,754K
> >> Operating System(s): Windows XP , Windows Vista
> >> Marvell Yukon Ethernet Controller Driver
>
> >> This is Marvell Yukon Ethernet Controller Driver.
> >>   Driver Ver. 10.21.5.3
>
> >> [ Application model ]
> >> . Marvell Ethernet Controller is applied LG Notebook
> >> . Windows XP / Vista
>
> >> [ Caution ]
> >> ? LG Electronics recommend to use Windows XP or Vista.
> >> Installation Other OS may cause functional problem, and it will not be
> >> covered by product warranty.
>
> >> - If you install this driver to other product, it may cause functional
> >> defect, so, please be make sure the "Applied Model".
>
> >> - Installation process may be different according to user's environment.
>
> >> [ Installation Process ]
> >> 1. Download file.
> >> 2. Extract file, and it will make folder.
> >> 3. Execute "LAN\\SetupYukonWINC_5X6N.EXE "
> >> </snip>
>
> >> --
> >> Mike Easter
>
> > I had already obtained that driver from the Marvel site. Installed a
> > few days ago. The network controller , under "other devices" seems to
> > be the culprit. As far as I can determine it is a Ralink product.
> > Still no luck in even finding my network or any others in the area.
> > This is starting to become redundant. Frustrated
> > -J
>
> Ralink have drivers here.
>
> http://www.ralinktech.com/support.php?s=1
>
>     Paul- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

After spending some time going back and forth with this problem, I
decided to start over. I uninstalled the Marvell driver and installed
the latest ver.10.70.5.3. When I did this a blue screen appeared, when
I rebooted a windows repair open and ran. I guess this was like a
"last known good configuration". Now the laptop is finding and
connecting to wireless networks. But I am still unable to get online.
In Device manager under "Network Adapters" the sub heading "other
devices" is gone. " The only conflict is with an 802.11N wireless USB
adapter. This device cannot start code 10. It says Arcadyan Tech
Corp, driver v 2.1.0.0 . I will see if I can find a driver and try
to update. results to follow.
-J