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From: John Hasler on 31 Mar 2010 11:40 "S.D.A." writes: > Precisely, far too many lists on Debian and they could use some > consolidation. My view is if an issue affects users of Debian; then it > should be posted to the 'user' lists. Many "users" cannot tolerate the high volume of debian-user but need to see announcements. These people subscribe only to the low-volume "announce" lists. On the other hand it is hard to see why those who can tolerate the high volume here cannot also subscribe the the low-volume "announce" lists. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/874ojwo76q.fsf(a)thumper.dhh.gt.org
From: Johannes Wiedersich on 31 Mar 2010 12:10 John Hasler wrote: > "S.D.A." writes: >> Precisely, far too many lists on Debian and they could use some >> consolidation. My view is if an issue affects users of Debian; then it >> should be posted to the 'user' lists. No. debian-user is for "Help and discussion among users of Debian". debian-announce is for "Important announcements". cf. http://lists.debian.org/users.html There are many different needs of different people. A higher number of mailing lists makes it just easier to accommodate all these needs. (It is rather simple to subscribe and unsubscribe). > Many "users" cannot tolerate the high volume of debian-user but need to > see announcements. These people subscribe only to the low-volume > "announce" lists. On the other hand it is hard to see why those who can > tolerate the high volume here cannot also subscribe the the low-volume > "announce" lists. And even users tolerating the high volume of d-u might want to have an important announcement stand out (with a different 'to') for easy filtering. Cheers, Johannes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4BB36F83.9070905(a)aktendiener.de
From: Paul Johnson on 31 Mar 2010 17:10 On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:51:31 +0200, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > John Hasler wrote: >> "S.D.A." writes: >>> Precisely, far too many lists on Debian and they could use some >>> consolidation. My view is if an issue affects users of Debian; then it >>> should be posted to the 'user' lists. > > No. > > debian-user is for "Help and discussion among users of Debian". > > debian-announce is for "Important announcements". > > cf. http://lists.debian.org/users.html > > There are many different needs of different people. A higher number of > mailing lists makes it just easier to accommodate all these needs. (It > is rather simple to subscribe and unsubscribe). Not only that, but there's also the gmane.linux.debian.* hierarchy... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/bsmc87xt4t.ln2(a)ursa-major.network.ursamundi.org
From: Anthony Campbell on 1 Apr 2010 04:00 On 31 Mar 2010, S.D.A. wrote: [snip] > Speaking of this issue (FTP master being down); I did an 'aptitude > update' for my SID laptop this morning. Says over 900 packages need to > be updated! Now I know it's been a few days since we received updates, > and I update every day prior to the downtime; Surely that can't be > right, can it? > No updates available here, either on ftp.de.debian.org or ftp.uk.debian.org. Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - ac(a)acampbell.org.uk Microsoft-free zone - Using Debian GNU/Linux http://www.acampbell.org.uk - sample my ebooks at http://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/acampbell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100401075022.GA12067(a)acampbell.org.uk
From: Stephen Powell on 1 Apr 2010 09:50
On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 03:50:22 -0400 (EDT), Anthony Campbell wrote: > On 31 Mar 2010, S.D.A. wrote: >> Speaking of this issue (FTP master being down); I did an 'aptitude >> update' for my SID laptop this morning. Says over 900 packages need to >> be updated! Now I know it's been a few days since we received updates, >> and I update every day prior to the downtime; Surely that can't be >> right, can it? > > > No updates available here, either on ftp.de.debian.org or > ftp.uk.debian.org. S.D.A: I am assuming that you canceled out of it and did not do the updates. If that is the case, try issuing the following commands: aptitude keep-all aptitude update aptitude full-upgrade and see what you get. -- .''`. Stephen Powell <zlinuxman(a)wowway.com> : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1114966930.526691270129526891.JavaMail.root(a)md01.wow.synacor.com |