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From: Mark Lang on 15 Jun 2010 19:00
Can anyone please suggest a few commonly available (inexpensive,
unrestricted) liquids that exhibit a non-linear response in relation
to superimposed time varying electromagnetic fields? Applied
frequencies will be between 5KHz and 50KHz.

An indication of which are most non-linear would also be helpful.

Not having any luck so far with web searches.

Mark Lang
From: Uncle Al on 15 Jun 2010 19:51
Mark Lang wrote:
>
> Can anyone please suggest a few commonly available (inexpensive,
> unrestricted) liquids that exhibit a non-linear response in relation
> to superimposed time varying electromagnetic fields? Applied
> frequencies will be between 5KHz and 50KHz.
>
> An indication of which are most non-linear would also be helpful.
>
> Not having any luck so far with web searches.

Try these:

A fluid with a high dielectric constant that is viscous ought to do
it. You want some fat dipoles, too. Disperse *dilute*
carboymethylcellulose in distilled water and start raising the pH with
dilute lye solution.

Serial dilutions of heavy corn syrup. Corn starch dispersed in water,
not dilute. Glycerin. Serial dilutions of Pert shampoo or diswashing
liquid. Water dilutions of black latex paint; cooking oil dilutions
of black enamel or aluminum flake (Rustoleum).

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From: Androcles on 15 Jun 2010 20:19

"Mark Lang" <marklang(a)retralux.com> wrote in message
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| Can anyone please suggest a few commonly available (inexpensive,
| unrestricted) liquids that exhibit a non-linear response in relation
| to superimposed time varying electromagnetic fields? Applied
| frequencies will be between 5KHz and 50KHz.
|
| An indication of which are most non-linear would also be helpful.
|
| Not having any luck so far with web searches.
|
| Mark Lang

Try lorentzium contractium, einsteinium dilatium or lorentzium
transformium, the latter being the most nonlinear. They are all
commonly available on usenet and completely unrestricted.



From: Mark Lang on 16 Jun 2010 04:43
On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 16:51:53 -0700, Uncle Al <UncleAl0(a)hate.spam.net>
wrote:

>A fluid with a high dielectric constant that is viscous ought to do
>it. You want some fat dipoles, too. Disperse *dilute*
>carboymethylcellulose in distilled water and start raising the pH with
>dilute lye solution.
>

Thank you for your reply.

Do you happen to have a literary reference for the above process? I
would like to read more.

>Serial dilutions of heavy corn syrup. Corn starch dispersed in water,
>not dilute. Glycerin. Serial dilutions of Pert shampoo or diswashing
>liquid. Water dilutions of black latex paint; cooking oil dilutions
>of black enamel or aluminum flake (Rustoleum).
>

Can you please give an indication of the allowable extent of dilution,
ie. 10x, 100x 1000x?

All useful suggestions, but which of these liquids would be most
non-linear to EMF's?

I am curious to know what ingredient in Pert and black paint makes it
non-linear.

Mark Lang
From: Uncle Al on 16 Jun 2010 10:46
Mark Lang wrote:
>
> On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 16:51:53 -0700, Uncle Al <UncleAl0(a)hate.spam.net>
> wrote:
>
> >A fluid with a high dielectric constant that is viscous ought to do
> >it. You want some fat dipoles, too. Disperse *dilute*
> >carboymethylcellulose in distilled water and start raising the pH with
> >dilute lye solution.
> >
>
> Thank you for your reply.
>
> Do you happen to have a literary reference for the above process? I
> would like to read more.

Look up undergrad labs for determining AC dielectric constants of
liquids. If the interrogating frequency of a polar liquid is higher
than the time of dipole reorientation or relaxation, epsilon decreases
with increasing frequency. One can impose substantial non-linearities
by having multiple mechanisms of relaxation with different time
constants and mechanisms.

A dissolved ionic polymer in varying concentration will have all sorts
of odd things happening as it is driven by the external field. Same
for suspended micro-particulates. Conducting anisotropic partculates
like pigment aluminum flake will show a drastic break with increasing
concentrations as increasingly larger fractal clusters in contact and
then the bulk form electrically conducting networks.

The black paint is a cheap entry into much smaller carbon
(semiconducting) particulates at higher viscosity (polymer aditives,
dispersed silica especially for matte finish) in a dielectic medium.
Aquadag is a water (plus dispersion additives) suspension of graphite.

If you need complex behavior, use complex stuff. Ketchup is complex
stuff - tilt the bottle 30 degrees and rapidly tap the end of the neck
*horizontally" to obtain shear thinning of the non-Newtonian fluid,
then flow. Tomato juice is complex stuff. Pour into a glass, rapidly
stir, then flash-pull the spoon. The liquid stops rotating, then
*rebounds.* Aluminum flake pigment in liquid medium is complex
stuff. No matter how long you stir it, it never goes isotropic. You
can always see gradients.


> >Serial dilutions of heavy corn syrup. Corn starch dispersed in water,
> >not dilute. Glycerin. Serial dilutions of Pert shampoo or diswashing
> >liquid. Water dilutions of black latex paint; cooking oil dilutions
> >of black enamel or aluminum flake (Rustoleum).
> >
>
> Can you please give an indication of the allowable extent of dilution,
> ie. 10x, 100x 1000x?

"Allowable?" Try it. It works or it doesn't work. 50:50 to 70:30
cornstarch/water was diddled by Mythbusters for its extraordinary
mechanical naughtiness. Start there and dilute for possible
electromagnetic naughtiness. Ditto fumed silica in minerral oil. 1%
fumed silia in light mineral oil, energetically mixed to disperse, is
a shear-reversible gel as the silica microparticals hydrogen bond. At
inreasingly larger dilutions they will space until the entrowrk fails
an only clsuter form, then smaller clustrers, then single particles.
Heavily loaded fumed silica in polyethylene glycol is a compliant
paste. Under high shear conditions - an incoming bullet - the
dilatant fluid is armor.

> All useful suggestions, but which of these liquids would be most
> non-linear to EMF's?
>
> I am curious to know what ingredient in Pert and black paint makes it
> non-linear.

Polymer additives and particulates. There will be various mechanisms
of dielectric relaxation from intrinsic properties of the species and
extrinsic properties of their association(s) with changing
concentration.

What you have now is nothing. Visit a grocery and hardware store and
you have a possible something. If any of it works, for minimal cost
and effort, there you are. That none of it will work is extremely
unlikely. Interaction scale and time vs. interrogation frequency (and
its scale) are the kickers. A white cotton blouse is opaque by light
scattering. Pop the IR-excluding filter from your CCD camera and add
a sun-block lens filter. Just below the visible the scale of light
scattering, (frequency)^4, fails. White cotton is mostly transparent
in the IR.

--
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