From: Pieyed Piper on 14 Feb 2010 09:45 On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 05:25:22 GMT, Peter McMullin <pmcmullin(a)gmail.com> wrote: >And, they're all available in the files area. Life is good. >OrCad lives on, and produces.You don't need dosbox under XP. Don't know >about W7. Sorry if this does not address the OP's question directly, but >actually it does. DOSBox allows one to use vesa drivers, and it also can translate between a driver and your actual card, which almost always differs these days. A straight XP DOS window, which not everyone has, does not necessarily allow such behavior. Very few of the cards in the list are still in use at all. Even though I own a few, that is beside the point. XP doesn't run on the machines that those cards do run on.
From: Joerg on 14 Feb 2010 12:46 Joel Koltner wrote: > "Joerg" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message > news:7tosu8FiqlU1(a)mid.individual.net... >> As Spehro mentioned, the real danger was tweaking the frame rate and >> number of lines. Losing a $200 graphics card is one thing but having >> the flyback xfmr of a $2k monitor go phseeeeoooouuu ... phsssst ... >> *PHOOF* was quite another. > > Possibly silly question: In a $2k monitor, would it have really cost > very much (relatively speaking) to prevent the flyback transformer from > frying? > No, but it would probably have caused the BOM budget limit to be exceeded by 15 Cents :-) > Is it the core going into saturation that kills them (overheating > leading to insulation being lost and eventually shorting) or too high > output voltage (leading directly to shorting)? > I don't know, maybe some sort of resonance. What people described was that it "hissed", kept working for a while, and then p...p..popp ... poof. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
From: Spehro Pefhany on 14 Feb 2010 13:55 On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 09:46:58 -0800, the renowned Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >Joel Koltner wrote: >> "Joerg" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message >> news:7tosu8FiqlU1(a)mid.individual.net... >>> As Spehro mentioned, the real danger was tweaking the frame rate and >>> number of lines. Losing a $200 graphics card is one thing but having >>> the flyback xfmr of a $2k monitor go phseeeeoooouuu ... phsssst ... >>> *PHOOF* was quite another. >> >> Possibly silly question: In a $2k monitor, would it have really cost >> very much (relatively speaking) to prevent the flyback transformer from >> frying? >> > >No, but it would probably have caused the BOM budget limit to be >exceeded by 15 Cents :-) > > >> Is it the core going into saturation that kills them (overheating >> leading to insulation being lost and eventually shorting) or too high >> output voltage (leading directly to shorting)? >> > >I don't know, maybe some sort of resonance. What people described was >that it "hissed", kept working for a while, and then p...p..popp ... poof. Then a resounding Ka-Ching! (or so I hear). Best regards, Spehro Pefhany -- "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff(a)interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
From: Jim Thompson on 14 Feb 2010 13:55 On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 13:55:51 -0500, Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP(a)interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote: >On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 09:46:58 -0800, the renowned Joerg ><invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: > >>Joel Koltner wrote: >>> "Joerg" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message >>> news:7tosu8FiqlU1(a)mid.individual.net... >>>> As Spehro mentioned, the real danger was tweaking the frame rate and >>>> number of lines. Losing a $200 graphics card is one thing but having >>>> the flyback xfmr of a $2k monitor go phseeeeoooouuu ... phsssst ... >>>> *PHOOF* was quite another. >>> >>> Possibly silly question: In a $2k monitor, would it have really cost >>> very much (relatively speaking) to prevent the flyback transformer from >>> frying? >>> >> >>No, but it would probably have caused the BOM budget limit to be >>exceeded by 15 Cents :-) >> >> >>> Is it the core going into saturation that kills them (overheating >>> leading to insulation being lost and eventually shorting) or too high >>> output voltage (leading directly to shorting)? >>> >> >>I don't know, maybe some sort of resonance. What people described was >>that it "hissed", kept working for a while, and then p...p..popp ... poof. > >Then a resounding Ka-Ching! (or so I hear). > > >Best regards, >Spehro Pefhany Joerg should hire himself out as a sound effects man for the movie industry... put all that hissing, popping, poofing and "phuting" to go use ;-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
From: Joerg on 14 Feb 2010 16:40
Spehro Pefhany wrote: > On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 09:46:58 -0800, the renowned Joerg > <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> Joel Koltner wrote: >>> "Joerg" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message >>> news:7tosu8FiqlU1(a)mid.individual.net... >>>> As Spehro mentioned, the real danger was tweaking the frame rate and >>>> number of lines. Losing a $200 graphics card is one thing but having >>>> the flyback xfmr of a $2k monitor go phseeeeoooouuu ... phsssst ... >>>> *PHOOF* was quite another. >>> Possibly silly question: In a $2k monitor, would it have really cost >>> very much (relatively speaking) to prevent the flyback transformer from >>> frying? >>> >> No, but it would probably have caused the BOM budget limit to be >> exceeded by 15 Cents :-) >> >> >>> Is it the core going into saturation that kills them (overheating >>> leading to insulation being lost and eventually shorting) or too high >>> output voltage (leading directly to shorting)? >>> >> I don't know, maybe some sort of resonance. What people described was >> that it "hissed", kept working for a while, and then p...p..popp ... poof. > > Then a resounding Ka-Ching! (or so I hear). > Aggravated by the fact that you could not easily buy a spare HV flyback transformer for a computer monitor. With TV sets they could be had for $30-$60, usually. Ok, sometimes you had to pretend you were a TV repair pro and don a white coat, or send a friend to buy it. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM. |