From: Pieyed Piper on
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 05:25:22 GMT, Peter McMullin <pmcmullin(a)gmail.com>
wrote:

>And, they're all available in the files area. Life is good.
>OrCad lives on, and produces.You don't need dosbox under XP. Don't know
>about W7. Sorry if this does not address the OP's question directly, but
>actually it does.


DOSBox allows one to use vesa drivers, and it also can translate
between a driver and your actual card, which almost always differs these
days.

A straight XP DOS window, which not everyone has, does not necessarily
allow such behavior. Very few of the cards in the list are still in use
at all. Even though I own a few, that is beside the point. XP doesn't
run on the machines that those cards do run on.
From: Joerg on
Joel Koltner wrote:
> "Joerg" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:7tosu8FiqlU1(a)mid.individual.net...
>> As Spehro mentioned, the real danger was tweaking the frame rate and
>> number of lines. Losing a $200 graphics card is one thing but having
>> the flyback xfmr of a $2k monitor go phseeeeoooouuu ... phsssst ...
>> *PHOOF* was quite another.
>
> Possibly silly question: In a $2k monitor, would it have really cost
> very much (relatively speaking) to prevent the flyback transformer from
> frying?
>

No, but it would probably have caused the BOM budget limit to be
exceeded by 15 Cents :-)


> Is it the core going into saturation that kills them (overheating
> leading to insulation being lost and eventually shorting) or too high
> output voltage (leading directly to shorting)?
>

I don't know, maybe some sort of resonance. What people described was
that it "hissed", kept working for a while, and then p...p..popp ... poof.

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From: Spehro Pefhany on
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 09:46:58 -0800, the renowned Joerg
<invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:

>Joel Koltner wrote:
>> "Joerg" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:7tosu8FiqlU1(a)mid.individual.net...
>>> As Spehro mentioned, the real danger was tweaking the frame rate and
>>> number of lines. Losing a $200 graphics card is one thing but having
>>> the flyback xfmr of a $2k monitor go phseeeeoooouuu ... phsssst ...
>>> *PHOOF* was quite another.
>>
>> Possibly silly question: In a $2k monitor, would it have really cost
>> very much (relatively speaking) to prevent the flyback transformer from
>> frying?
>>
>
>No, but it would probably have caused the BOM budget limit to be
>exceeded by 15 Cents :-)
>
>
>> Is it the core going into saturation that kills them (overheating
>> leading to insulation being lost and eventually shorting) or too high
>> output voltage (leading directly to shorting)?
>>
>
>I don't know, maybe some sort of resonance. What people described was
>that it "hissed", kept working for a while, and then p...p..popp ... poof.

Then a resounding Ka-Ching! (or so I hear).


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Spehro Pefhany
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From: Jim Thompson on
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 13:55:51 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
<speffSNIP(a)interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

>On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 09:46:58 -0800, the renowned Joerg
><invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Joel Koltner wrote:
>>> "Joerg" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:7tosu8FiqlU1(a)mid.individual.net...
>>>> As Spehro mentioned, the real danger was tweaking the frame rate and
>>>> number of lines. Losing a $200 graphics card is one thing but having
>>>> the flyback xfmr of a $2k monitor go phseeeeoooouuu ... phsssst ...
>>>> *PHOOF* was quite another.
>>>
>>> Possibly silly question: In a $2k monitor, would it have really cost
>>> very much (relatively speaking) to prevent the flyback transformer from
>>> frying?
>>>
>>
>>No, but it would probably have caused the BOM budget limit to be
>>exceeded by 15 Cents :-)
>>
>>
>>> Is it the core going into saturation that kills them (overheating
>>> leading to insulation being lost and eventually shorting) or too high
>>> output voltage (leading directly to shorting)?
>>>
>>
>>I don't know, maybe some sort of resonance. What people described was
>>that it "hissed", kept working for a while, and then p...p..popp ... poof.
>
>Then a resounding Ka-Ching! (or so I hear).
>
>
>Best regards,
>Spehro Pefhany

Joerg should hire himself out as a sound effects man for the movie
industry... put all that hissing, popping, poofing and "phuting" to go
use ;-)

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From: Joerg on
Spehro Pefhany wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 09:46:58 -0800, the renowned Joerg
> <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Joel Koltner wrote:
>>> "Joerg" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:7tosu8FiqlU1(a)mid.individual.net...
>>>> As Spehro mentioned, the real danger was tweaking the frame rate and
>>>> number of lines. Losing a $200 graphics card is one thing but having
>>>> the flyback xfmr of a $2k monitor go phseeeeoooouuu ... phsssst ...
>>>> *PHOOF* was quite another.
>>> Possibly silly question: In a $2k monitor, would it have really cost
>>> very much (relatively speaking) to prevent the flyback transformer from
>>> frying?
>>>
>> No, but it would probably have caused the BOM budget limit to be
>> exceeded by 15 Cents :-)
>>
>>
>>> Is it the core going into saturation that kills them (overheating
>>> leading to insulation being lost and eventually shorting) or too high
>>> output voltage (leading directly to shorting)?
>>>
>> I don't know, maybe some sort of resonance. What people described was
>> that it "hissed", kept working for a while, and then p...p..popp ... poof.
>
> Then a resounding Ka-Ching! (or so I hear).
>

Aggravated by the fact that you could not easily buy a spare HV flyback
transformer for a computer monitor. With TV sets they could be had for
$30-$60, usually. Ok, sometimes you had to pretend you were a TV repair
pro and don a white coat, or send a friend to buy it.

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