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From: Steve on 22 Feb 2010 12:16
<<They develop applications that leave the client with no aftersales support
and nowhere to turn to correct bad programming except to have to do the
whole
application over. >>

Yes, I have run across this many times. I have worked on many projects where
customers could not get help from the original developer of the application.
I am working on a current project where the developer gave the customer a
..mde file. The customer has several problems with the application and the
developer wants an arm and a leg for the original .mdb file. I am recreating
the entire application for less than half the cost of the original .mdb file
and will give the customer a .mdb file in case he wants to make
modifications any time in the future. All my work carries a sixty day
guarantee for the customer to test drive my work. Within the sixty days, I
fix any problems the customer finds (very rare) and make any modifications
the customer wants.

Steve


"AndrewDB" <AndrewDB(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:FA92F301-C80C-4861-9B83-7C0D4A0DDD51(a)microsoft.com...
> Hi John
>
> Thanks for you response and suggestion. I will look into the commercially
> available ones. Was just hoping somebody would have used this before and
> could point me in the right direction without me having to download and
> run
> each in an effort to find the correct one.
>
> As for Steve - you get them everywhere . Beggars on street corner hoping
> for
> a bit of food. I have been developing software applications since 1987
> (good
> old DBase days!) and have come across many people like Steve. But to
> generalise these are the types that create the bad image in the industry.
> They develop applications that leave the client with no aftersales support
> and nowhere to turn to correct bad programming except to have to do the
> whole
> application over.
>
> --
> Kepior Senso Fumor
>
>
> "John... Visio MVP" wrote:
>
>> "AndrewDB" <AndrewDB(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:2D96F02C-F207-48CA-9327-5282258D3C15(a)microsoft.com...
>> > Hi All
>> >
>> > Anybody know of software that will use Access Database as data source
>> > that
>> > will show an organizational hierachy similar to that shown in Word 2007
>> > SmartArt?
>> > --
>> > Kepior Senso Fumor
>>
>>
>> As to actually answering your question, most of the software packages
>> that
>> create org charts do support importing information from Access, Excel or
>> other data source. For some reason, my personal favourite is Visio.
>>
>> SmartArt is a superset of the standard MSO shapes and it is possible to
>> automate the creation of an orgchart, but a more practical solution is to
>> use one of the commercially available programs.
>>
>> John... Visio MVP
>>
>> .
>>


From: Stop$teve on 22 Feb 2010 13:16

"Steve" <notmyemail(a)address.com> schreef in bericht news:ubk$zK%23sKHA.3536(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> <<They develop applications that leave the client with no aftersales support
> and nowhere to turn to correct bad programming except to have to do the whole
> application over. >>
>
> Yes, I have run across this many times. I have worked on many projects where customers could not get help from the original
> developer of the application. I am working on a current project where the developer gave the customer a .mde file. The customer
> has several problems with the application and the developer wants an arm and a leg for the original .mdb file. I am recreating the
> entire application for less than half the cost of the original .mdb file and will give the customer a .mdb file in case he wants
> to make modifications any time in the future. All my work carries a sixty day guarantee for the customer to test drive my work.
> Within the sixty days, I fix any problems the customer finds (very rare) and make any modifications the customer wants.
>
> Steve

IMO Andrew was talking about people like you $teve.

Remember the scam alert ?? This was also about you!
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.databases.ms-access/msg/94c39baf8d72aa67?pli=1

Arno R



From: AndrewDB on 22 Feb 2010 14:14
I am amazed at the presumptious and totally self-righteous attitude with
which my last reply was responded to. Facebook has a facility to block a user
who is not wanted, maybe MS should look into placing a similar function in
DGH. But then again characters like $teve will find a way around it.
--
Kepior Senso Fumor


"Stop$teve" wrote:

>
> "Steve" <notmyemail(a)address.com> schreef in bericht news:ubk$zK%23sKHA.3536(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > <<They develop applications that leave the client with no aftersales support
> > and nowhere to turn to correct bad programming except to have to do the whole
> > application over. >>
> >
> > Yes, I have run across this many times. I have worked on many projects where customers could not get help from the original
> > developer of the application. I am working on a current project where the developer gave the customer a .mde file. The customer
> > has several problems with the application and the developer wants an arm and a leg for the original .mdb file. I am recreating the
> > entire application for less than half the cost of the original .mdb file and will give the customer a .mdb file in case he wants
> > to make modifications any time in the future. All my work carries a sixty day guarantee for the customer to test drive my work.
> > Within the sixty days, I fix any problems the customer finds (very rare) and make any modifications the customer wants.
> >
> > Steve
>
> IMO Andrew was talking about people like you $teve.
>
> Remember the scam alert ?? This was also about you!
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.databases.ms-access/msg/94c39baf8d72aa67?pli=1
>
> Arno R
>
>
>
> .
>
From: Fred on 22 Feb 2010 15:31
I thought I wrote this already but I guess not.

The closest I've ever come is that if you have the simple situation whihc
show only line authority, and everyone has one and only one boss, then you
can sort of do this with reports and sub-reports and sub-sub-reports

Otherwise for straight drawing of such, I like AutoSketch (which is like
Autocad lite lite) More precise and predicable that Visio, but Vision also
has it's advantages.
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