From: Jim on
On 2010-01-21, James Taylor <usenet(a)oakseed.demon.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
> Jim wrote:
>
>> This is probably a hopelessly simplistic answer, but could you not simply
>> put the Mac's network adaptor on a 10.x.y.z network, then put the VM's
>> adaptors onto the realworld network?
>
> Nice idea Jim, but sadly that doesn't stop OS X from Bonjouring everyone
> on the network about your machine name, IP address, listening services,
> etc, and thus it would be very easy for a malicious agent (virus,
> hacker, whatever) on the same LAN segment to see you and then attack the
> IP address you were on whatever you set it to.

Bother.

Jim
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From: D.M. Procida on
James Taylor <usenet(a)oakseed.demon.co.uk.invalid> wrote:

> It sticks in my craw that I purchased an expensive Mac, but OS X is so
> insecure it can't even be secured when you try very very hard. I feel
> let down by Apple on several aspects of security actually. They just
> don't seem to get it at all.

I'm a little puzzled by your complaints. At the level you're speaking
of, you're presumably not dealing with anything especially to do with
Mac OS X; it's FreeBSD, isn't it?

In which case, you should be able to make it do anything that you could
make FreeBSD do.

Daniele
From: Woody on
James Taylor <usenet(a)oakseed.demon.co.uk.invalid> wrote:

> Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:
>
> > Then stick with VMware rather than using KVM. Server is free on Linux,
> > and all the VMwares use the same machine format.
>
> Oh really? That's such good news.

I have used VMWare server. It does mostly work but there is a good
reason it is free.

For servers it is mostly ok. For use as a desktop it is sluggish to say
the least (ignoring its faffyness to run and set up).



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From: James Taylor on
D.M. Procida wrote:

> I'm a little puzzled by your complaints. At the level you're speaking
> of, you're presumably not dealing with anything especially to do with
> Mac OS X; it's FreeBSD, isn't it?

Well, I'm not sure. Is the launchd system and all the listening daemons
I listed earlier part of FreeBSD, or are they part of OS X?

> In which case, you should be able to make it do anything that you could
> make FreeBSD do.

Are you suggesting that I can install FreeBSD instead of OS X, or that
by using MacPorts I might be able to install FreeBSD features such as a
working application firewall, or some other approach?

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From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 16:48:11 +0700, James Taylor
<usenet(a)oakseed.demon.co.uk.invalid> wrote:

>Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:
>
>> James Taylor wrote:
>>
>>> Can anyone tell me how to get the application firewall to actually
>>> do its job and block incoming access to everything but VMware?
>>
>> You can't, it just doesn't do that.
>
>You're confirming that the firewall doesn't do its job? So Apple's own
>flagship security feature is well known to be snake oil is it?

Nope. It does exactly what it says it does, which doesn't happen to be
what you need.

Cheers - Jaimie
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