From: Jan Panteltje on
On topic: Teaching kids engineering:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/14/education/14engineering.html?partner=rss&emc=rss
From: Joerg on
Jan Panteltje wrote:
> On topic: Teaching kids engineering:
> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/14/education/14engineering.html?partner=rss&emc=rss


Interesting. Do they do something like that in the Netherlands?

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From: lektric.dan on
On Jun 14, 6:31 am, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On topic: Teaching kids engineering:
>  http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/14/education/14engineering.html?partne....

Yeah, there's a discussion on this over on slashdot -
http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=10/06/14/1356233
From: Jan Panteltje on
On a sunny day (Mon, 14 Jun 2010 10:50:48 -0700) it happened Joerg
<invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in <87n8frFlm8U1(a)mid.individual.net>:

>Jan Panteltje wrote:
>> On topic: Teaching kids engineering:
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/14/education/14engineering.html?partner=rss&emc=rss
>
>
>Interesting. Do they do something like that in the Netherlands?

Not that I know, but it has been a while since I was in kindergarten :-)
I have mentioned many times in newsgroups that all kids learn these days is 'parroting'.
There is just too much info dumped on these kids, maybe to keep them of the streets.
I hope internet will change some of that, as they can go where their talents are.
I do remember that in my case when I wanted books about radio and TV when I was 5 or 6
it needed a waver from the library to get those, actually got one.
I would have loved internet, so much you can discover.
It was very difficult to get any good educational material at that age.
I remember I asked my father some basic questions about electromagnetism,
and he freaked out (did not have a clue) and told me: You will learn that later in school.
I think I still have not heard the answer that satisfies me :-)
I was always experimenting with electronics and stuff, miracle how I got my hands on it.
It is absolutely great that they allow those kids to think for themselves now,
that is the age where the brain is sort of hardwired, those kids will become problem solvers.
Maybe not all of them, but those that do have it in them will.



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From: Joerg on
Jan Panteltje wrote:
> On a sunny day (Mon, 14 Jun 2010 10:50:48 -0700) it happened Joerg
> <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in <87n8frFlm8U1(a)mid.individual.net>:
>
>> Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>> On topic: Teaching kids engineering:
>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/14/education/14engineering.html?partner=rss&emc=rss
>>
>> Interesting. Do they do something like that in the Netherlands?
>
> Not that I know, but it has been a while since I was in kindergarten :-)
> I have mentioned many times in newsgroups that all kids learn these days is 'parroting'.
> There is just too much info dumped on these kids, maybe to keep them of the streets.


Yes, plus parents dump the job of education onto government. Which then
raises taxes on everyone because kids "absolutely have to" go to
pre-school and kindergarden. Which is absolute baloney and my generation
is proof of that. There simply was no kindergarden, and we didn't need one.


> I hope internet will change some of that, as they can go where their talents are.


I hope for the same. But it would require them to let go of MTV,
Youtube, iTunes and so on. At least to some extent.


> I do remember that in my case when I wanted books about radio and TV when I was 5 or 6
> it needed a waver from the library to get those, actually got one.


Strange, in Germany we did not need waivers. You could pick any book you
wanted to. Even one that was called "Construction of Eavesdropping
Transmitters". Seriously.


> I would have loved internet, so much you can discover.
> It was very difficult to get any good educational material at that age.
> I remember I asked my father some basic questions about electromagnetism,
> and he freaked out (did not have a clue) and told me: You will learn that later in school.
> I think I still have not heard the answer that satisfies me :-)
> I was always experimenting with electronics and stuff, miracle how I got my hands on it.
> It is absolutely great that they allow those kids to think for themselves now,
> that is the age where the brain is sort of hardwired, those kids will become problem solvers.
> Maybe not all of them, but those that do have it in them will.
>

They will. In our days we were also very free, much more so than today's
school kids. The epitome of joy were bulk waste days, when people put
their old radio and TV sets out to the curb. That netted me so much in
parts that I rarely needed moeny to build stuff.

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