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From: BURT on 27 Jun 2010 21:00 On Jun 27, 5:53�pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jun 27, 6:10 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jun 27, 2:48 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jun 27, 5:18 pm, Mark Isaak <eci...(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 21:31:26 -0700, mpc755 wrote: > > > > > Aether and matter are different states of the same material. The > > > > > material is maether. > > > > > Maether has mass. > > > > > Aether and matter have mass. > > > > > Aether is uncompressed maether and matter is compressed maether. Aether > > > > > is displaced by matter. > > > > > In what muniverse? > > > > > -- > > > > Mark Isaak eciton (at) earthlink (dot) net > > > > "It is certain, from experience, that the smallest grain of natural > > > > honesty and benevolence has more effect on men's conduct, than the most > > > > pompous views suggested by theological theories and systems." - D. Hume > > > > Answer the following: > > > > A C-60 molecule is in the slit(s). Detectors are placed at the exits. > > > The C-60 molecule is always detected exiting a single slit. A C-60 > > > molecule is in the slit(s). Detectors are placed and removed from the > > > exits to the slits. Repeat and the C-60 molecule creates an > > > interference pattern. > > > > A moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The > > > C-60 molecule itself occupies a very small region of the wave. The > > > C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit in a double slit > > > experiment. The associated aether displacement wave enters and exits > > > the available slits. When the aether displacement wave exits the slits > > > it creates interference which alters the direction the C-60 molecule > > > travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the > > > associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns it into chop) and > > > there is no interference. > > > > Why is a C-60 molecule always detected exiting a single slit? > > > > Because the C-60 molecule always enters and exits a single slit. Duh! > > > > Enjoy your inability to understand the physics of nature. > > > > Aether and matter are different states of the same material. > > > The material is maether. > > > Maether has mass. > > > Aether and matter have mass. > > > Aether is uncompressed maether and matter is compressed maether. > > > Aether is displaced by matter. > > > The aether is not at rest when displaced and 'displaces back'. > > > The 'displacing back' is the pressure exerted by the aether. > > > Gravity is pressure exerted by displaced aether towards matter. > > > > 'Ether and the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein'http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html > > > > "the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections > > > with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places". > > > > The state of the aether as determined by its connections with the > > > matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the > > > aether's state of displacement. > > > > "According to the general theory of relativity space without ether is > > > unthinkable" > > > > 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT? By A. > > > EINSTEIN'http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf > > > > "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass > > > diminishes by L/c2." > > > > The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer > > > exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as > > > aether. As the matter transitions to aether it expands in three > > > dimensions. The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether > > > and matter is energy. > > > The experiments you have heard about are intellectual dishonesty. > > Science has been making things up and is going to pay for it when it > > is revealed in the future. > > > Please stoip using it as your source. > > > Mitch Raemsch > > It is the Copenhagen interpretation of what occurs physically in > nature in the experiments which is delusional. > > There is a lot of experimental evidence of particles creating > interference patterns in double slit experiments. The interference > patterns build up over time as more and more particles are > individually detected. > > 'File:Double-slit experiment results Tanamura 2.jpg'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Double-slit_experiment_results_Tana... > > "Summary > > Results of a double-slit-experiment performed by Dr. Tonomura showing > the build-up of an interference pattern of single electrons. Numbers > of electrons are 10 (a), 200 (b), 6000 (c), 40000 (d), 140000 (e). > > (Provided with kind permission of Dr. Tonomura.)" > > The particle travels a single path. The associated aether wave enters > and exits multiple slits. The aether wave creates interference which > alters the direction the particle travels. Detecting the particle > causes decoherence of the associated wave (i.e. turns the wave into > chop) and there is no interference. > > The analogy is a boat and its bow wave. The boat enters and exits a > single slit. The bow wave enters and exits multiple slits. The wave > exits the slits and creates interference which alters the direction > the boat travels. Detecting the boat by placing buoys at the exits to > the slits causes decoherence of the associated wave (i.e. turns the > wave into chop) and there is no interference. > > Why is a C-60 molecule always detected exiting a single slit in a > double slit experiment? > > Because the C-60 molecule always enters and exits a single slit. Duh!- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I don't believe the made of science that they shot that heavy molecule through two slits. I have one question: how big is that molecules wave? Mitch Raemsch
From: bert on 27 Jun 2010 21:06 On Jun 27, 8:53�pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jun 27, 6:10 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jun 27, 2:48 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jun 27, 5:18 pm, Mark Isaak <eci...(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 21:31:26 -0700, mpc755 wrote: > > > > > Aether and matter are different states of the same material. The > > > > > material is maether. > > > > > Maether has mass. > > > > > Aether and matter have mass. > > > > > Aether is uncompressed maether and matter is compressed maether. Aether > > > > > is displaced by matter. > > > > > In what muniverse? > > > > > -- > > > > Mark Isaak eciton (at) earthlink (dot) net > > > > "It is certain, from experience, that the smallest grain of natural > > > > honesty and benevolence has more effect on men's conduct, than the most > > > > pompous views suggested by theological theories and systems." - D. Hume > > > > Answer the following: > > > > A C-60 molecule is in the slit(s). Detectors are placed at the exits. > > > The C-60 molecule is always detected exiting a single slit. A C-60 > > > molecule is in the slit(s). Detectors are placed and removed from the > > > exits to the slits. Repeat and the C-60 molecule creates an > > > interference pattern. > > > > A moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The > > > C-60 molecule itself occupies a very small region of the wave. The > > > C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit in a double slit > > > experiment. The associated aether displacement wave enters and exits > > > the available slits. When the aether displacement wave exits the slits > > > it creates interference which alters the direction the C-60 molecule > > > travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the > > > associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns it into chop) and > > > there is no interference. > > > > Why is a C-60 molecule always detected exiting a single slit? > > > > Because the C-60 molecule always enters and exits a single slit. Duh! > > > > Enjoy your inability to understand the physics of nature. > > > > Aether and matter are different states of the same material. > > > The material is maether. > > > Maether has mass. > > > Aether and matter have mass. > > > Aether is uncompressed maether and matter is compressed maether. > > > Aether is displaced by matter. > > > The aether is not at rest when displaced and 'displaces back'. > > > The 'displacing back' is the pressure exerted by the aether. > > > Gravity is pressure exerted by displaced aether towards matter. > > > > 'Ether and the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein'http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html > > > > "the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections > > > with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places". > > > > The state of the aether as determined by its connections with the > > > matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the > > > aether's state of displacement. > > > > "According to the general theory of relativity space without ether is > > > unthinkable" > > > > 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT? By A. > > > EINSTEIN'http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf > > > > "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass > > > diminishes by L/c2." > > > > The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer > > > exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as > > > aether. As the matter transitions to aether it expands in three > > > dimensions. The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether > > > and matter is energy. > > > The experiments you have heard about are intellectual dishonesty. > > Science has been making things up and is going to pay for it when it > > is revealed in the future. > > > Please stoip using it as your source. > > > Mitch Raemsch > > It is the Copenhagen interpretation of what occurs physically in > nature in the experiments which is delusional. > > There is a lot of experimental evidence of particles creating > interference patterns in double slit experiments. The interference > patterns build up over time as more and more particles are > individually detected. > > 'File:Double-slit experiment results Tanamura 2.jpg'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Double-slit_experiment_results_Tana... > > "Summary > > Results of a double-slit-experiment performed by Dr. Tonomura showing > the build-up of an interference pattern of single electrons. Numbers > of electrons are 10 (a), 200 (b), 6000 (c), 40000 (d), 140000 (e). > > (Provided with kind permission of Dr. Tonomura.)" > > The particle travels a single path. The associated aether wave enters > and exits multiple slits. The aether wave creates interference which > alters the direction the particle travels. Detecting the particle > causes decoherence of the associated wave (i.e. turns the wave into > chop) and there is no interference. > > The analogy is a boat and its bow wave. The boat enters and exits a > single slit. The bow wave enters and exits multiple slits. The wave > exits the slits and creates interference which alters the direction > the boat travels. Detecting the boat by placing buoys at the exits to > the slits causes decoherence of the associated wave (i.e. turns the > wave into chop) and there is no interference. > > Why is a C-60 molecule always detected exiting a single slit in a > double slit experiment? > > Because the C-60 molecule always enters and exits a single slit. Duh!- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Single virus bucky balls too Here is a kicker single photon can go through 1 million holes at once. All this gave me the answer to the two slit experiment. Yes I am a clever thinker TreBert
From: mpc755 on 27 Jun 2010 21:14 On Jun 27, 9:00�pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jun 27, 5:53 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 27, 6:10 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Jun 27, 2:48 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 27, 5:18 pm, Mark Isaak <eci...(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 21:31:26 -0700, mpc755 wrote: > > > > > > Aether and matter are different states of the same material. The > > > > > > material is maether. > > > > > > Maether has mass. > > > > > > Aether and matter have mass. > > > > > > Aether is uncompressed maether and matter is compressed maether. Aether > > > > > > is displaced by matter. > > > > > > In what muniverse? > > > > > > -- > > > > > Mark Isaak eciton (at) earthlink (dot) net > > > > > "It is certain, from experience, that the smallest grain of natural > > > > > honesty and benevolence has more effect on men's conduct, than the most > > > > > pompous views suggested by theological theories and systems." - D. Hume > > > > > Answer the following: > > > > > A C-60 molecule is in the slit(s). Detectors are placed at the exits. > > > > The C-60 molecule is always detected exiting a single slit. A C-60 > > > > molecule is in the slit(s). Detectors are placed and removed from the > > > > exits to the slits. Repeat and the C-60 molecule creates an > > > > interference pattern. > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The > > > > C-60 molecule itself occupies a very small region of the wave. The > > > > C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit in a double slit > > > > experiment. The associated aether displacement wave enters and exits > > > > the available slits. When the aether displacement wave exits the slits > > > > it creates interference which alters the direction the C-60 molecule > > > > travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the > > > > associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns it into chop) and > > > > there is no interference. > > > > > Why is a C-60 molecule always detected exiting a single slit? > > > > > Because the C-60 molecule always enters and exits a single slit. Duh! > > > > > Enjoy your inability to understand the physics of nature. > > > > > Aether and matter are different states of the same material. > > > > The material is maether. > > > > Maether has mass. > > > > Aether and matter have mass. > > > > Aether is uncompressed maether and matter is compressed maether. > > > > Aether is displaced by matter. > > > > The aether is not at rest when displaced and 'displaces back'. > > > > The 'displacing back' is the pressure exerted by the aether. > > > > Gravity is pressure exerted by displaced aether towards matter. > > > > > 'Ether and the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein'http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html > > > > > "the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections > > > > with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places". > > > > > The state of the aether as determined by its connections with the > > > > matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the > > > > aether's state of displacement. > > > > > "According to the general theory of relativity space without ether is > > > > unthinkable" > > > > > 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT? By A. > > > > EINSTEIN'http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf > > > > > "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass > > > > diminishes by L/c2." > > > > > The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer > > > > exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as > > > > aether. As the matter transitions to aether it expands in three > > > > dimensions. The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether > > > > and matter is energy. > > > > The experiments you have heard about are intellectual dishonesty. > > > Science has been making things up and is going to pay for it when it > > > is revealed in the future. > > > > Please stoip using it as your source. > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > It is the Copenhagen interpretation of what occurs physically in > > nature in the experiments which is delusional. > > > There is a lot of experimental evidence of particles creating > > interference patterns in double slit experiments. The interference > > patterns build up over time as more and more particles are > > individually detected. > > > 'File:Double-slit experiment results Tanamura 2.jpg'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Double-slit_experiment_results_Tana... > > > "Summary > > > Results of a double-slit-experiment performed by Dr. Tonomura showing > > the build-up of an interference pattern of single electrons. Numbers > > of electrons are 10 (a), 200 (b), 6000 (c), 40000 (d), 140000 (e). > > > (Provided with kind permission of Dr. Tonomura.)" > > > The particle travels a single path. The associated aether wave enters > > and exits multiple slits. The aether wave creates interference which > > alters the direction the particle travels. Detecting the particle > > causes decoherence of the associated wave (i.e. turns the wave into > > chop) and there is no interference. > > > The analogy is a boat and its bow wave. The boat enters and exits a > > single slit. The bow wave enters and exits multiple slits. The wave > > exits the slits and creates interference which alters the direction > > the boat travels. Detecting the boat by placing buoys at the exits to > > the slits causes decoherence of the associated wave (i.e. turns the > > wave into chop) and there is no interference. > > > Why is a C-60 molecule always detected exiting a single slit in a > > double slit experiment? > > > Because the C-60 molecule always enters and exits a single slit. Duh!- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > I don't believe the made of science that they shot that heavy molecule > through two slits. That's the point. The C-60 molecule not go through multiple slits. The C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit. It is the associated aether displacement wave which enters and exits multiple slits. The experiment described below was performed with electrons. The electron 'particle' travels a single path and enters and exits a single slit. It is the associated aether displacement wave which enters and exits multiple slits. 'File:Double-slit experiment results Tanamura 2.jpg' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Double-slit_experiment_results_Tana... "Summary Results of a double-slit-experiment performed by Dr. Tonomura showing the build-up of an interference pattern of single electrons. Numbers of electrons are 10 (a), 200 (b), 6000 (c), 40000 (d), 140000 (e). (Provided with kind permission of Dr. Tonomura.)" The particle travels a single path. The associated aether wave enters and exits multiple slits. The aether wave creates interference which alters the direction the particle travels. Detecting the particle causes decoherence of the associated wave (i.e. turns the wave into chop) and there is no interference. The analogy is a boat and its bow wave. The boat enters and exits a single slit. The bow wave enters and exits multiple slits. The wave exits the slits and creates interference which alters the direction the boat travels. Detecting the boat by placing buoys at the exits to the slits causes decoherence of the associated wave (i.e. turns the wave into chop) and there is no interference. Why is a C-60 molecule always detected exiting a single slit in a double slit experiment? Because the C-60 molecule always enters and exits a single slit. Duh!
From: mpc755 on 27 Jun 2010 21:17 On Jun 27, 9:06�pm, bert <herbertglazie...(a)msn.com> wrote: > On Jun 27, 8:53 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 27, 6:10 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Jun 27, 2:48 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 27, 5:18 pm, Mark Isaak <eci...(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 21:31:26 -0700, mpc755 wrote: > > > > > > Aether and matter are different states of the same material. The > > > > > > material is maether. > > > > > > Maether has mass. > > > > > > Aether and matter have mass. > > > > > > Aether is uncompressed maether and matter is compressed maether. Aether > > > > > > is displaced by matter. > > > > > > In what muniverse? > > > > > > -- > > > > > Mark Isaak eciton (at) earthlink (dot) net > > > > > "It is certain, from experience, that the smallest grain of natural > > > > > honesty and benevolence has more effect on men's conduct, than the most > > > > > pompous views suggested by theological theories and systems." - D. Hume > > > > > Answer the following: > > > > > A C-60 molecule is in the slit(s). Detectors are placed at the exits. > > > > The C-60 molecule is always detected exiting a single slit. A C-60 > > > > molecule is in the slit(s). Detectors are placed and removed from the > > > > exits to the slits. Repeat and the C-60 molecule creates an > > > > interference pattern. > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The > > > > C-60 molecule itself occupies a very small region of the wave. The > > > > C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit in a double slit > > > > experiment. The associated aether displacement wave enters and exits > > > > the available slits. When the aether displacement wave exits the slits > > > > it creates interference which alters the direction the C-60 molecule > > > > travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the > > > > associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns it into chop) and > > > > there is no interference. > > > > > Why is a C-60 molecule always detected exiting a single slit? > > > > > Because the C-60 molecule always enters and exits a single slit. Duh! > > > > > Enjoy your inability to understand the physics of nature. > > > > > Aether and matter are different states of the same material. > > > > The material is maether. > > > > Maether has mass. > > > > Aether and matter have mass. > > > > Aether is uncompressed maether and matter is compressed maether. > > > > Aether is displaced by matter. > > > > The aether is not at rest when displaced and 'displaces back'. > > > > The 'displacing back' is the pressure exerted by the aether. > > > > Gravity is pressure exerted by displaced aether towards matter. > > > > > 'Ether and the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein'http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html > > > > > "the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections > > > > with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places". > > > > > The state of the aether as determined by its connections with the > > > > matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the > > > > aether's state of displacement. > > > > > "According to the general theory of relativity space without ether is > > > > unthinkable" > > > > > 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT? By A. > > > > EINSTEIN'http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf > > > > > "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass > > > > diminishes by L/c2." > > > > > The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer > > > > exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as > > > > aether. As the matter transitions to aether it expands in three > > > > dimensions. The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether > > > > and matter is energy. > > > > The experiments you have heard about are intellectual dishonesty. > > > Science has been making things up and is going to pay for it when it > > > is revealed in the future. > > > > Please stoip using it as your source. > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > It is the Copenhagen interpretation of what occurs physically in > > nature in the experiments which is delusional. > > > There is a lot of experimental evidence of particles creating > > interference patterns in double slit experiments. The interference > > patterns build up over time as more and more particles are > > individually detected. > > > 'File:Double-slit experiment results Tanamura 2.jpg'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Double-slit_experiment_results_Tana... > > > "Summary > > > Results of a double-slit-experiment performed by Dr. Tonomura showing > > the build-up of an interference pattern of single electrons. Numbers > > of electrons are 10 (a), 200 (b), 6000 (c), 40000 (d), 140000 (e). > > > (Provided with kind permission of Dr. Tonomura.)" > > > The particle travels a single path. The associated aether wave enters > > and exits multiple slits. The aether wave creates interference which > > alters the direction the particle travels. Detecting the particle > > causes decoherence of the associated wave (i.e. turns the wave into > > chop) and there is no interference. > > > The analogy is a boat and its bow wave. The boat enters and exits a > > single slit. The bow wave enters and exits multiple slits. The wave > > exits the slits and creates interference which alters the direction > > the boat travels. Detecting the boat by placing buoys at the exits to > > the slits causes decoherence of the associated wave (i.e. turns the > > wave into chop) and there is no interference. > > > Why is a C-60 molecule always detected exiting a single slit in a > > double slit experiment? > > > Because the C-60 molecule always enters and exits a single slit. Duh!- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Single virus bucky balls too � Here is a kicker single photon can go > through 1 million holes at once. All this gave me the answer to the > two slit experiment. �Yes I am a clever thinker � TreBert The aether wave associated with the photon 'particle' enters and exits multiple slits in a double slit experiment. The photon 'particle' travels a single path and enters and exits a single slit. The associated aether wave exits multiple slits and creates interference upon exiting the slits which alters the direction the photon 'particle' travels. Detecting the photon 'particle' causes decoherence of the associated aether wave (i.e. turns the aether wave into chop) and there is no interference. Why is the photon 'particle' always detected exiting a single slit in a double slit experiment? Because the photon 'particle' always enters and exits a single slit. Duh!
From: bpuharic on 27 Jun 2010 21:41
On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 17:53:43 -0700 (PDT), BURT <macromitch(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >"God does not play dice with the universe." >Einstein was right about QM. actually he was wrong > >Mitch Raemsch |