From: mpc755 on
On Jun 28, 8:59 am, Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nos...(a)hotmail.com>
wrote:
> On 27 June, 04:55, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 26, 11:33 pm, Boikat <boi...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > > On Jun 26, 10:27 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Jun 26, 4:15 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > "I want to know how God created the universe. I want to know his
> > > > > thoughts. The rest are just details." Albert EInstein
>
> > > > > Hypersphere cosmology was the beginning with energy created in its
> > > > > surface of space. First there was inflation that stopped gravity from
> > > > > bringing it all back together. Einstein's universe is closed finite
> > > > > yet unbounded hypersphere cosmology.
>
> > > > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > > > The universe is, or the local universe is in, a jet stream.
>
> > > > The following is an image of a jet stream:
>
> > > >http://aether.lbl.gov/image_all.html
>
> > > No, that's a schematic representation of size of the Universe through
> > > time.
>
> > It's not the Big Bang. It's the Big Ongoing.
>
> > Aether and matter are different states of the same material.
> > The material is maether.
> > Maether has mass.
>
> > Maether is continually emitted into the jet stream the universe is, or
> > the local universe exists in.
>
> > In the following image, '1st Stars' is where the pressure is great
> > enough to cause the maether to be compressed into matter.
>
> >http://aether.lbl.gov/image_all.html
>
> > The following image of the Rindler Horizon is also an image of the jet
> > stream the universe is, or the local universe exists in:
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rindler_coordinates#Geodesics-Hide quoted text -
>
> did someone not check the child gate was properly latched when they
> left sci.physics?

How is matter formed?

Are you going to say from energy? From radiation?

Mass is conserved.

Aether and matter are different states of the same material.
Aether is uncompressed maether and matter is compressed maether.

In the following image, '1st Stars' is where the pressure is great
enough to cause the maether to be compressed into matter.

http://aether.lbl.gov/image_all.html

A=Mc^2, where A is aether and M is matter.

From: aganunitsi on
On Jun 28, 5:07 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
<aethereal snip>
> Correct. But each C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit. The
> moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. It is
> the aether displacement wave which enters and exits multiples slits,
> creating interference upon exiting the slits which alters the
> direction the C-60 molecule, which entered and exited a single slit,
> travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the
> associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns the wave into chop)
> and there is no interference.

You're not stating the entirety of observations made in a double slit
experiment. Only one detector pointed at one of the two slits is
required. Non-detection of a particle occurs 50% of the time (meaning
the particle must have gone through the other slit), but we do not
observe a 50% particle like strike pattern mixed with a 50% wave like
interference strike pattern on the final detector.

If there is a separate aether displacement wave that always goes
through both slits, this wouldn't be the observation.

<superpositional snip>
> Explain how a C-60 molecule enters, travels through and exits multiple
> slits simultaneously without requiring energy releasing energy or
> having a change in momentum.
<snip>

It's called superposition. I suggest you read up on quantum
decoherence: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_decoherence

From: mpc755 on
On Jun 28, 8:29�pm, aganunitsi <ssyke...(a)mindspring.com> wrote:
> On Jun 28, 5:07 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> <aethereal snip>
>
> > Correct. But each C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit. The
> > moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. It is
> > the aether displacement wave which enters and exits multiples slits,
> > creating interference upon exiting the slits which alters the
> > direction the C-60 molecule, which entered and exited a single slit,
> > travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the
> > associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns the wave into chop)
> > and there is no interference.
>
> You're not stating the entirety of observations made in a double slit
> experiment. Only one detector pointed at one of the two slits is
> required. Non-detection of a particle occurs 50% of the time (meaning
> the particle must have gone through the other slit), but we do not
> observe a 50% particle like strike pattern mixed with a 50% wave like
> interference strike pattern on the final detector.
>

An experiment with one detector is more evidence the C-60 molecule
enters and exits a single slit. Either the molecule, 100% of it, is
detected exiting a single slit or no molecule, 0% of it, is detected
exiting a single slit.

> If there is a separate aether displacement wave that always goes
> through both slits, this wouldn't be the observation.
>

Of course it would be. The C-60 molecule always goes through a single
slit.

> <superpositional snip>> Explain how a C-60 molecule enters, travels through and exits multiple
> > slits simultaneously without requiring energy releasing energy or
> > having a change in momentum.
>
> <snip>
>
> It's called superposition. I suggest you read up on quantum
> decoherence:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_decoherence

It's called the absurd nonsense of the Copenhagen interpretation of
QM.

If you want to understand how a particle has an associated wave and
the particle travels a single path, you should read:

http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf

"I called this relation, which determines the particle�s motion in the
wave, �the guidance formula�. It may easily be generalized to the case
of an external field acting on the particle."

The external field acting on the particle is the aether.

http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/1929/broglie-lecture.pdf

From: mpc755 on
On Jun 28, 8:29�pm, aganunitsi <ssyke...(a)mindspring.com> wrote:
> On Jun 28, 5:07 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> <aethereal snip>
>
> > Correct. But each C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit. The
> > moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. It is
> > the aether displacement wave which enters and exits multiples slits,
> > creating interference upon exiting the slits which alters the
> > direction the C-60 molecule, which entered and exited a single slit,
> > travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the
> > associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns the wave into chop)
> > and there is no interference.
>
> You're not stating the entirety of observations made in a double slit
> experiment. Only one detector pointed at one of the two slits is
> required. Non-detection of a particle occurs 50% of the time (meaning
> the particle must have gone through the other slit), but we do not
> observe a 50% particle like strike pattern mixed with a 50% wave like
> interference strike pattern on the final detector.
>
> If there is a separate aether displacement wave that always goes
> through both slits, this wouldn't be the observation.
>

So, you're suggesting detectors at the exits to the slit, there to
detected the C-60 molecule, should detected the aether displacement
wave, but if there are no detectors at the exits at all, then the C-60
molecule magically exits both slits and interferes with itself.

Is this correct?

Explain the following.

A C-60 molecule is in the slit(s). Detectors are placed at the exits.
The C-60 molecule is always detected exiting a single slit. A C-60
molecule is in the slit(s). Detectors are placed and removed from the
exits. Repeat and the C-60 molecules create an interference pattern.

How is this possible?

Why is the C-60 molecule always detected exiting a single slit?

Because the C-60 molecule always enters and exits a single slit, duh!

Here is an experiment. Place a detector at one of the exits of a
double slit experiment. Fire a particle. Have the particle be detected
and not exit the slit. Fire another particle across the front of the
open slit at the time the particle would exit the slit if the particle
had entered that slit. The aether displacement wave should alter the
direction the particle fired in front of the slits travels.

The Copenhagen interpretation of QM can not answer this experimental
evidence because all there is is the particle and once it is detected,
that's it. Anything exiting the other slit would cause the Copenhagen
interpretation of QM to fail conservation of momentum.

> <superpositional snip>> Explain how a C-60 molecule enters, travels through and exits multiple
> > slits simultaneously without requiring energy releasing energy or
> > having a change in momentum.
>
> <snip>
>
> It's called superposition. I suggest you read up on quantum
> decoherence:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_decoherence


From: BURT on
On Jun 28, 5:09�pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 28, 8:59 am, Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nos...(a)hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 27 June, 04:55, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jun 26, 11:33 pm, Boikat <boi...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > > > On Jun 26, 10:27 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Jun 26, 4:15 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > "I want to know how God created the universe. I want to know his
> > > > > > thoughts. The rest are just details." Albert EInstein
>
> > > > > > Hypersphere cosmology was the beginning with energy created in its
> > > > > > surface of space. First there was inflation that stopped gravity from
> > > > > > bringing it all back together. Einstein's universe is closed finite
> > > > > > yet unbounded hypersphere cosmology.
>
> > > > > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > > > > The universe is, or the local universe is in, a jet stream.
>
> > > > > The following is an image of a jet stream:
>
> > > > >http://aether.lbl.gov/image_all.html
>
> > > > No, that's a schematic representation of size of the Universe through
> > > > time.
>
> > > It's not the Big Bang. It's the Big Ongoing.
>
> > > Aether and matter are different states of the same material.
> > > The material is maether.
> > > Maether has mass.
>
> > > Maether is continually emitted into the jet stream the universe is, or
> > > the local universe exists in.
>
> > > In the following image, '1st Stars' is where the pressure is great
> > > enough to cause the maether to be compressed into matter.
>
> > >http://aether.lbl.gov/image_all.html
>
> > > The following image of the Rindler Horizon is also an image of the jet
> > > stream the universe is, or the local universe exists in:
>
> > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rindler_coordinates#Geodesics-Hidequoted text -
>
> > did someone not check the child gate was properly latched when they
> > left sci.physics?
>
> How is matter formed?
>
> Are you going to say from energy? From radiation?
>
> Mass is conserved.
>
> Aether and matter are different states of the same material.
> Aether is uncompressed maether and matter is compressed maether.
>
> In the following image, '1st Stars' is where the pressure is great
> enough to cause the maether to be compressed into matter.
>
> http://aether.lbl.gov/image_all.html
>
> A=Mc^2, where A is aether and M is matter.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

There is no molecule wave.

Mitch Raemsch