From: mm on
On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 09:28:45 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
<dave(a)davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

>In article <voq7r5thoc581eq55bcalu92qo6kte59ju(a)4ax.com>,
> mm <NOPSAMmm2005(a)bigfoot.com> wrote:
>> DVD recorder/players sold in the USA won't play PAL DVDs, will they?
>
>There's no such thing as a PAL DVD - or NTSC, for that matter. They are
>just called that to identify the region they are 'allowed' for.

That seems strange because it was labeled PAL Region 0. Sorry that I
didn't say that in the first post. And aiui Region 0 means it will
play in a dvd player set for any region.

From: William R. Walsh on
Hi!

> BEWARE!!!! you can only change the drive like 4 times and
> then it stays in the last format.

I've seen some drives that would reset this counter if the firmware
were updated. However, it was my understanding that NTSC and PAL
playback were not constrained to the region setting.

I don't remember which drives behaved that way and which ones did not.

William
From: Geoffrey S. Mendelson on
William R. Walsh wrote:

> I've seen some drives that would reset this counter if the firmware
> were updated. However, it was my understanding that NTSC and PAL
> playback were not constrained to the region setting.

IMHO the best versions are the ones that do not remove region code
setting, but do not remember the changes permanently. So each time you
turn on your computer, you get a fresh drive as it came from the factory.

This does not affect the operating system, which has its own counter.

To be honest, I have not done this in probably 3-4 years on a PC or
other Linux, etc drive. I've only done it on an internal Macintosh
notebook drive.

It probably did not need it as it was made before the short time Apple
disabled reading a DVD as data. It was IMHO a "trial balloon" which failed.

Geoff.

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From: Ian Jackson on
In message <3kvcle.u44.17.1(a)news.alt.net>, MeatPlow@?.?.invalid writes
>On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 17:34:05 +0000 (UTC), "Geoffrey S. Mendelson"
><gsm(a)cable.mendelson.com>wrote:
>
>>William R. Walsh wrote:
>>
>>> I've seen some drives that would reset this counter if the firmware
>>> were updated. However, it was my understanding that NTSC and PAL
>>> playback were not constrained to the region setting.
>>
>>IMHO the best versions are the ones that do not remove region code
>>setting, but do not remember the changes permanently. So each time you
>>turn on your computer, you get a fresh drive as it came from the factory.
>>
>>This does not affect the operating system, which has its own counter.
>>
>>To be honest, I have not done this in probably 3-4 years on a PC or
>>other Linux, etc drive. I've only done it on an internal Macintosh
>>notebook drive.
>>
>>It probably did not need it as it was made before the short time Apple
>>disabled reading a DVD as data. It was IMHO a "trial balloon" which failed.
>>
>>Geoff.
>
>If you are going to the trouble to protect your region counter you
>might as well just copy the DVD to your hard drive using software that
>will make it region free. It's no less legal than not having to change
>your drive's region is it?

If the region coding of your DVD doesn't match that of the DVD drive,
you can't play it or explore its contents until you have changed the
drive coding. However, as I suggested, if you run DVD43 in the
background, you should be able to play it and copy it without any
problems. [Note: As installed, by default, DVD43 runs at start-up, but
you can easily block that, and run it only when required.]
--
Ian
From: Geoffrey S. Mendelson on
Dave Platt wrote:

> These players are also usually "region-free" or region-selectable.
> There aren't many manufacturers of these, they tend to be
> lesser-known names ("boutique" brands such as Oppo), and you won't
> tend to find these players in local stores, but they *are* available.

Several years ago someone brought me one to look at for them, which
cost them $50 at Radio Shack. It was a progressive scan unit and had
the ability to switch between PAL/NTSC/Autosystem TVs. It was locked to zone
2. It had a 100-240 volt autoswitching power supply.

The exact same unit, under the same brand name was sold by several stores
online that catered to the Indian population. It was "zone free". Unlocking
codes could be found on the net with a quick search.

Geoff.

--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel gsm(a)mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM
New word I coined 12/13/09, "Sub-Wikipedia" adj, describing knowledge or
understanding, as in he has a sub-wikipedia understanding of the situation.
i.e possessing less facts or information than can be found in the Wikipedia.