From: mm on
I accidentally bought a PAL DVD (it was shipped from Cleveland!)**

Then, I accidentally came across a web page giving instructions how to
change the region of some DVD players to whatever one wants.

This doesn't help me, does it?

DVD recorder/players sold in the USA won't play PAL DVDs, will they?


** In the ebay ad, he wrote clearly that it was PAL, and he wrote it
in red!, but it didn't register.
From: WangoTango on
In article <voq7r5thoc581eq55bcalu92qo6kte59ju(a)4ax.com>, NOPSAMmm2005
@bigfoot.com says...
> I accidentally bought a PAL DVD (it was shipped from Cleveland!)**
>
> Then, I accidentally came across a web page giving instructions how to
> change the region of some DVD players to whatever one wants.
>
> This doesn't help me, does it?
>
> DVD recorder/players sold in the USA won't play PAL DVDs, will they?
>
>
> ** In the ebay ad, he wrote clearly that it was PAL, and he wrote it
> in red!, but it didn't register.
>
If you have a region free player, it won't care.
There is no such thing as PAL data.
Most DVD rippers will remove the region and that is that.
My LG player doesn't seem to care what region the disk is from.

From: kaboom on
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:42:26 -0400, mm <NOPSAMmm2005(a)bigfoot.com>
wrote:

>I accidentally bought a PAL DVD (it was shipped from Cleveland!)**
>
>Then, I accidentally came across a web page giving instructions how to
>change the region of some DVD players to whatever one wants.
>
>This doesn't help me, does it?
>
>DVD recorder/players sold in the USA won't play PAL DVDs, will they?

**Some of the cheaper brands will convert PAL to NTSC on the fly (as
well as have a simple remote hack to change the region).

Go here and see if any of your DVD players/recorders are on the list:

http://www.videohelp.com/dvdhacks

I have a Magnavox player that I picked up from Circuit City for
$35-$40 that does a great job of playing European DVDs.
From: stratus46 on
On Mar 31, 5:42 pm, mm <NOPSAMmm2...(a)bigfoot.com> wrote:
> I accidentally bought a PAL DVD (it was shipped from Cleveland!)**
>
> Then, I accidentally came across a web page giving instructions how to
> change the region of some DVD players to whatever one wants.
>
> This doesn't help me, does it?
>
> DVD recorder/players sold in the USA won't play PAL DVDs, will they?
>
> **  In the ebay ad, he wrote clearly that it was PAL, and he wrote it
> in red!, but it didn't register.

The DVD drive in our TV computer was perfectly happy switching to play
a PAL disc.

BEWARE!!!! you can only change the drive like 4 times and then it
stays in the last format. I'm told this is stored in the drive itself
and while I'm sure there is a way to reset this counter, I don't know
what it is. The ATI DVD player looked just fine with PAL.


From: Geoffrey S. Mendelson on
stratus46(a)yahoo.com wrote:
> BEWARE!!!! you can only change the drive like 4 times and then it
> stays in the last format. I'm told this is stored in the drive itself
> and while I'm sure there is a way to reset this counter, I don't know
> what it is. The ATI DVD player looked just fine with PAL.

The region code and video encoding are two different things. DVD's can either
be 24/1001 (NTSC film), 25 (PAL), or 30/1001 (NTSC TV) frames per second.
It's up to your DVD player to convert them to the TV set.

One of the DVD players I bought in 2000 had a PAL/multisystem switch, the
other had a software setup option (via the remote) of convert everything
to PAL, conveert everything to NTSC, or leave it in the system it was
encoded in (Multisystem TV). Every one I have purchased since has had
that option, and may of the ones sold here are also sold under other
names in the US.

Region code is a different issue. The name brand players seem to care,
the cheap Chinese ones don't. They can be easily set to any or all region
codes.

As for playing disks on the computer there are several ways to do it without
affecting the region code of the computer. DVD drives (except for a short
time around 2006 Apple drives) can read the encrypted data of a DVD disk
without decrypting it and therefore without triggering the region code
protection.

This requires the software on the computer to decrypt the disk,
something which is very common these days. You can use the freeware
players VLC or mplayer on almost anything (including Windows), or buy
(free trial) the program AnyDVD for Windows. AnyDVD is not a DVD player,
it is a device driver that intercepts the encrypted data and decrypts it
so that the disk appears to be unencrypted (have no region code at all).

You can't easily reset the region code counter in the drive, but you can
IF YOU DO IT BEFORE IT IS LOCKED, turn it off. You can find information
at www.rpc1.org.

You also have to change the region code in software for the Windows system,
there are programs to do it on the above web site.

I used to "flash" (change the microcode/firmware) on my drives to make
them region code free, as it were, but for several years I have not
bothered. The DVD players I buy here (under $30 each) are already region
code free, and I use VLC and Xine (under Linux), and AnyDVD under
Windows to play them.

You could also use one of the DVD copy programs to make an unencrypted
and therefore region free, copy of the disk.

Note that US copyright law is different than anywhere else, so you may
need to consult a lawyer if that concerns you. YMMV. Void where prohibited
by law, etc...

Geoff.

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